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..... I like Australias take on it all.
Please explain? I just read this entire thread trying to find what you meant (and that was hard work).
Phew! ... if you're Christian, celebrate Christmas - if not, don't.
It's a bit like blasphemous swearing ... Why don't people say "Buddha" or "Mohammed" or "There is no God" or "Ho Chi Min" when they hit their knuckles while wrenching? I'm a Christian but it doesn't bother me when they do that. So why should they get bent over my beliefs?
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I still don't get all offended and try to get the gooberment to make a law that they gotta say motorcycle. I just say nice yea you too man, and give em the ole thumbs up.
And no ones getting laws passed for the "happy holidays" converstion.
We ARE talking about the christmas/holiday thing, not taking god out of everything.
THAT would be an AUP violation...you could go to hell for that.
Right but they complain to management or businesses, and sue cities along with all manner of getting offended and trying to force others to bend their way over the matter.
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I guess I should have said, I don't go into the bar and complain to the owner that some one called my bike a Harley.
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Frankly, in over 40 years, I've never met anyone who got offended about me saying Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays, or whatever, and I've lived everywhere in the US except the West Coast. Nor do I get offended by others wishing me a good holiday, whatever it might be. Living in Connecticut, our schools celebrated Jewish holidays, even closed schools. I'm not Jewish, but doesn't bother me. I do miss the days when we wished each other Merry Christmas in school, and had Christmas parties, but then that was back in the 1960's and early 70's, and guess what, our entire town was WASP or Catholic, and I can't even remember if we had a black person in town. Point is, things have changed. Instead of primarily an influx of immigrants from Europe, we now have refugees from Vietnam, Somalia, Bosnia, former Soviet Republics, you name it, who are no longer primarily Christians. When I was little, no one got offended if you said Merry Christmas, well, because, everyone was most likely a Christian, so no one gave it a second thought. I'm sure there were atheists, but then again, back then, you might not want to mention that if you wanted a job, friends, etc..., it wasn't highly tolerated. Yes, I miss those things, but I also realize that those days are gone. I wouldn't want someone elses beliefs foisted on me, or my kids, and would expect that others wouldn't want mine foisted on their kids. Regardless of the fact that Christmas is being toned down in schools to avoid offending non-Christians, as it should, it is still Christmas to me and my family, just as Hannukah is still Hannukah to Jews and Ramadan is Ramadan to Muslims. To each his own. Don't really look at it as "PC" but rather respect for our fellow man.
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Don't really look at it as "PC" but rather respect for our fellow man.
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They should let schools out for a couple of weeks so people can celebrate their own thing.
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Better yet do away with the whole public school concept altogether.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Better yet do away with the whole public school concept altogether.
just because it obviously failed you, don't blame the system 
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YEA! Wot Dave said! i is a publik skool graduite, n i think i turnt owt ok!
(...at leest i learnt reel good 'bout how NOT ta spel certan werds wit' that supurflew...err...sepurfl...ehhh...that U that don't need ta be in sum werds like ALL good 'mericans shood!)
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Didn't fail me its failing period. The kids graduating don't even have a basic grasp of the language or history..... or math for that matter.
Like and uh you know its hard to have like a conversation with...... with you know most of them. Cause they are like stupid, and stuff.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Didn't fail me its failing period. The kids graduating don't even have a basic grasp of the language .......
Cause their are like stupid, and stuff.
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yeah different people shouldnt be mixed together, too much hassle around the holidays. Whatever happened to the good ol days, when there was only one god...it was much simpler greeting people back then.
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Well Chad, then why would you give these kids today those two weeks off for the Holidays that you suggested earlier? Ya see, I THINK maybe they should be in school every freakin' day of the year, AND for 8 hours a day, AND with their little noses pressed up into Math and Science books! (...that is until they catch up with the Chinese, Japanese and German kids...and once they do THAT, then the little darlings can MAYBE take a half day off for Millard Fillmore's Birthday!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Population and school growth here has made them consider just that. Difference is 1/2 the students go for 6 months then the other 1/2 go the other 6 months.
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Hey everybody, Joy to the World! (Pretty hard to argue with that!)
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Hey everybody, Joy to the World! (Pretty hard to argue with that!)
"Amen brother" quote from Hulk Hogan.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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How about this... Merry Mas! Nah... it just isn't the same without Christ! So, Merry Christmas and may your new year be blessed with dry roads and sunny skies!
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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I've been working on a dark joke about the commercialism of the season but it isn't gelling for me. Has to do with the mas part of Christmas and mas being "more" in Spanish. Maybe "Merry Mas" is the direction to go...
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Some good idea's here. But there's no way your're gonna implement them. Too many bleedin heart liberals. (And I consider MYSELF liberal) And just to blend the coexisting threads here together. News from the state capital; 5 girls were caught last week stealing a nativity scene from a local church. Officials located it later in a college presidents yard. One thing about the "equal rights agenda", now you have people of BOTH sexes acting like idiots and vandalizing Xmas traditions.
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Hmmm...my oldest public school educated kid is a mechanical engineer who graduated from Virginia Tech. My public school educated little girl is finishing up at Cornell before heading off to medical school.
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The point is that he did it before he turned 19. Not that you can't leave public school, and do more with your life. Congradulations on your children doing well, by the way. It always makes a parent proud to see their children on the road to success.
You're a pretty sharp guy, and I'm sure you had more to do with the success of your children than the public school. Encouraging them to study, helping them through the tough stuff, and giving them a good work ethic.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Hmmm...my oldest public school educated kid is a mechanical engineer who graduated from Virginia Tech. My public school educated little girl is finishing up at Cornell before heading off to medical school.
The point is that it isn't the piblic schools that are failing, it's parents.
My daughter, who graduated from the public school system has a mechanical engineering degree and my son who graduated from the public school system has a chemistry degree. And both are working and contributing to society.
It's just an easy target to say that the public schools are failing, a simplistic comment about a complex problem.
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The parents are failing as well. Holding parents accountable is a good idea but how do you do that?
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Hmmm...my oldest public school educated kid is a mechanical engineer who graduated from Virginia Tech. My public school educated little girl is finishing up at Cornell before heading off to medical school.
The point is that it isn't the piblic schools that are failing, it's parents.
My daughter, who graduated from the public school system has a mechanical engineering degree and my son who graduated from the public school system has a chemistry degree. And both are working and contributing to society.
It's just an easy target to say that the public schools are failing, a simplistic comment about a complex problem.
Parents or public schools or both? It's surely not the lack of cash being thrown at the public school monopoly. Next time I hear, "It's for the children", I'm going to throw up. The only thing "for the children" is the debt we are burdening them with. 
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Man?...for a thread that was complaining about people complaining, there sure is a lot of complaining.
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Hmmm...my oldest public school educated kid is a mechanical engineer who graduated from Virginia Tech. My public school educated little girl is finishing up at Cornell before heading off to medical school.
The point is that it isn't the piblic schools that are failing, it's parents.
My daughter, who graduated from the public school system has a mechanical engineering degree and my son who graduated from the public school system has a chemistry degree. And both are working and contributing to society.
It's just an easy target to say that the public schools are failing, a simplistic comment about a complex problem.
While there are lots of things that can be improved in public education count me in on the side that feels it's more a problem of expecting someone else to raise their kids. Kids with involved parents do well, if not 100% of the time, at a pretty high rate. If parent don't care, why should the kids? Honestly, the most devoted, driven, motivated, self sacrificing people I've ever known were teachers (BTW, I'm not one). I've worked with kids whose parents didn't give a rat's hind end about anything. The only people who really cared about them were their teachers.
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The point is that he did it before he turned 19. Not that you can't leave public school, and do more with your life. Congradulations on your children doing well, by the way. It always makes a parent proud to see their children on the road to success.
You're a pretty sharp guy, and I'm sure you had more to do with the success of your children than the public school. Encouraging them to study, helping them through the tough stuff, and giving them a good work ethic.
Right back atcha Sounds like you've got a pretty sharp, motivated youngster, there.
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Well Dwight, if the schools were having any kind of success in educating our children I would agree with ya. The problem is that they are not. The fix is easy though let the teachers teach. Allow them to have the disruptive removed from class, and hold back students until they have learned the material.
My 18 year old finished audio engineering school 2 weeks ago. In the top 5% of his class. He is headed out into the world with an education that he can put to use. Oh, he will be 19 in April. He could never have done this in public school. Because we home schooled him he could move along at what ever pace he could learn the material.
Hmmm...my oldest public school educated kid is a mechanical engineer who graduated from Virginia Tech. My public school educated little girl is finishing up at Cornell before heading off to medical school.
The point is that it isn't the piblic schools that are failing, it's parents.
My daughter, who graduated from the public school system has a mechanical engineering degree and my son who graduated from the public school system has a chemistry degree. And both are working and contributing to society.
It's just an easy target to say that the public schools are failing, a simplistic comment about a complex problem.
My niece and nephew both are in college and graduated public school.
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Smokey, we are not so far separated on the matter. I say scraping public school system only to one end. The total restructuring of the system. Start with getting rid of most of the administrations and have a faculty run school that the super is the head and the PTA is the body. Something like this Super=president, teachers = congress, parents= senate.....comparatively. Then no more class grades start at the begining and as you progress you move to the next level in the subject that you progress in. If you progress in reading but not so much in math you move to the next reading level but remain in the same math class until you get it and can move on. Once you reach a certain level that it is clear that you are or are not academically incline. you continue into either trade training like votech or academic training for a college that can prepare you for your future. That way you have a group of youths who upon Graduation have the skills needed in the work force or education required to go on to college to study (medicine for example). But because you got rid of the huge adminastrations you could focus that money on teachers and classes. Just an idea.
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Al's Message to Mankind this festive season....
" Leave presents on the doorstep and p*ss off"
Enjoy
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Now where the ****** am I?
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The trade classes could be very interesting. Because you could give tax breaks to companies such as Harley or large construction companies to hold the vocational classes. Local companies could qualify like the local auto dealer could hold mechanical classes. The local sign company could hold computer graphics classes. There could be some state certifications testing to make sure that the students are getting the info needed.
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I think the class grades are important to keep the students in any given room on the same level.I do feel students should be left behind if they do not understand the material though. A student should have to read , write, and do math to a certain level to proceed to the next grade level. No more of this adjusted IEP crap, they either get it or they don't advance.
Tech school or college should be a choice not forced. I went to tech school for electronics and auto mechanics. Dropped electronics as I started 1/2 way through the year and couldn't catch up. Mechanics I passed in 6 months and graduated.(I had already been working part time as a mechanic for years on our farm.)I then went to college 1/2 day while still in high school. Got tired of it and never finished college though.
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You have a second to your motion. This thread is just...  Please anyone say something... anything about motorcycles.
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As presents are opened and ribbons and bows are everywhere:
So how many families simply cant resist on Christmas morning sticking a bow on the dog or cats head and laughing?
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Right Ian you force noone a choice is made between the student the parents and the teachers they together come to a decision thats best for all involved. The best thing that ever happened to me was that when i was a senior in highschool the councelor came to me with an offer to participate in an experimental class. I left normal school and came in the evening time where I studied commercial graphics, accounting, economics, literature, and logic rather than the typical classes. I was a rebelious person that caused problems in school. Once I was in these classes I became interested and a participant that then did well. The vocational classes could be any comunity college type of classes where you get a certification. It don't have to be mechanics or construction. many fields such as controlled automation, graphics, accounting,and field engineering.
The reason I say get rid of the grade level classes is because many kids do well in some classes but not others this gives them a chance to move on in the classes they do well in but gives them more time to understand the things they struggle with. With out say hey you fail the whole class just because you failed math and science. Or being moved forward in a class that you don't grasp just becasue you did well in the bulk of the other classes. If the only thing you struggled with was reading why make it more difficult to get by moving you up in grade across the board. I think it creates failure rather than success. if a student is great in math but is terrible in reading let him move forward in math. to find his potential for success. They may be a mathmatical genius but just unable to put literature into you brain. no need to make the child suffer more by putting them into a class they can't of a higher level when they don't understand the material or hold them back when in a subject they grasped well.
Ok to full fill the motorcycle request. A student could graduate highschool this way with a certification as a motorcycle mechanic. How sweet would that be? A child who felt as though school was a waist of time because they didn't get it could be a brilliant motorcycle tech and on to a successful life.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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Re: Holiday insanity
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phoenix
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phoenix
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As presents are opened and ribbons and bows are everywhere:
So how many families simply cant resist on Christmas morning sticking a bow on the dog or cats head and laughing?
Guilty as charged.......did that every year when my 3 sons were growing up.I will always remember the joyous laughing they did watching the dog tryin to get the ribbon off.-- good ole days! Merry Christmas to you all  bob s
bob s
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Re: Holiday insanity
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Stickman Yogi
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Stickman Yogi
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Man?...for a thread that was complaining about people complaining, there sure is a lot of complaining.
It's part of that holiday insanity, I think Tom. Btw... how's your fridge running these days? Mine's cold as ever! 
Live to love, love to live.
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Bar Shake
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Bar Shake
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That's funny. I never had dogs growing up. I have 2 now, sounds like a plan for Christmas morning. Red bows for Black Labs? 
"Catching a yellow jacket in your shirt at seventy miles per hour can double your vocabulary" Author unknown
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