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#40318 02/28/2006 2:27 PM
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Received magnetic drain plugs from www.magneticdrainplugs.com (canada) and www.magneticdrainplug.com (North Dakota)to do a comparison and this is the results:

Guys,
I promised you the scoop so here it is. I received my package from www.magneticdrainplugs.com (canada) this morning. (7 day shipping)
I had allready had on hand the plug from magneticdrainplug.com (north dakota) (2 day shipping)
The plug itself from both companies are identical except for the magnet itself. The Canadian plug is 5/16 diameter. Very beefy magnet
The American plug is 1/4 diameter. Not so beefy.
This is where the similarities end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tested both magnets for strenghth and there is no comparison whatsoever. I grabbed my pile of wrenches just to see what they would hold up in the air.
The Canadian plug with the "larger" magnet would just barely hold a 9/16 box end wrench in the air. (1/4 pound)
The American plug with the "smaller magnet" kept going like the energizer rabbit. Finally I had a 1 3/4 pound proto 12" cresent wrench being held in the air with power to spare.
I was very impressed with the american magnetic plug from www.magneticdrainplug.com. I attempted to post some pictures in my album but,,,,,,I describe much better than I download. Sorry. Hope this helps. Bigger is not always better.

Jerry


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So from this test I can assume if I drop a wrench into the motor, the American version plug will catch it before it goes through the oil system wheras the Canadian one may allow it to slip through?

Ok, just busting on ya, a good review though, food for thought. Thanks.


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jerry #40320 02/28/2006 3:43 PM
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So Jerry,

Which one fits our bikes? I need to buy something else for the post office to lose!

Nobby

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So from this test I can assume if I drop a wrench into the motor, the American version plug will catch it before it goes through the oil system wheras the Canadian one may allow it to slip through?



Absolutley! I hate it when I accidently drop a wrench in with the oil

My biggest question, is does it really make a difference to have a magnetic plug? Is there enough steel parts falling apart in our motors to make a difference?

Soren

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My biggest question, is does it really make a difference to have a magnetic plug?




Thought 1 -
If you happen to have a carbon steel plate in your head and a strong enough magnet in your drain hole, I suspect the magnetic force will hold you firmly onto the saddle - May the force be with you.
Thought 2-
Canadian magnets suck
Thought 3 -
Canadian magnets start out closer to the N. Pole. Maybe they are calibrated for a closer distance.
Thought 4 -
I'm still thinkin'

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What is a cresent wrench?

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What is a cresent wrench?



Its an adjustable wrench that any self respecting mechanic will deny he's ever used or even seen for that matter.

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What is a cresent wrench?



A crescent wrench is the wrong tool for any job.



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OH I see, known as a SHIFTER over here.
Got all sizes at work (power station). good for rounding of stubborn nuts and bolts so you can drill them out .

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I winder if that plug will help you trip lights at intersections?


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bennybmn #40328 02/28/2006 5:50 PM
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What's a magnet?


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I winder if that plug will help you trip lights at intersections?




Or stuck to a guard rail

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I had to find out so I emailed them about the type of magnets they use and as I suspected, they use "nickel plated rare earth magnets" (direct quote from them).

Very strong magnets....


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jerry,

Like I told you, if the engine is suddenly slow to turn over, don't blame the battery.......



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jerry #40332 02/28/2006 9:41 PM
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Don & Barry, I can always count on you guys. HaHa. As to the correct size. I can only speak for the 790 engine. It takes a 14mm X 1.5 metric. If any of you guys find out for sure what your Triumph's drain plug size is just let Tim from www.magneticdrainplug know and he will fix you up.

Jerry


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What is a cresent wrench?



Its an adjustable wrench that any self respecting mechanic will deny he's ever used or even seen for that matter.



A crescent wrench only has two purposes:
Rounding bolts
Skinning knuckles


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Pat,
Do you have a magnetic drain plug? Is it worth the $12?


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AngusPT #40335 03/01/2006 8:51 AM
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Pat,
Do you have a magnetic drain plug? Is it worth the $12?




I don't have one, yet.
Sure can't hurt to have one.
I especially proboaly should with the wiseco steel sleeves I now have too, Hmmm.


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The transmission has lots of steel parts to wear and shed metal. Couldn't hurt to have someting to pick up the pieces rather than having them float around.

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I've had one in now for a full year and haven't seen anything attached to it yet. But the extra protection is worth it.


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Your the same guys that buy that device you put in the carb, to create a tornado effect ... One is born every minute I heard ...

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i've had the canadian magnet drain plug for a couple of years and i always get a smear of metalic paste on the end of the magnet when i change oil. it might not be the pull but the total surface space of the magnet that is best.
for 10 bucks or so i got the magnet and a hand full of crush washers.

cat


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tatkin #40340 03/02/2006 10:07 AM
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tatkin,

So you are saying that anyone who puts a magnetic drain plug in is a sucker?

Why's that? I don't have one but am curious...


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bonnyusa #40341 03/02/2006 10:51 AM
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Not a sucker for buying the magnet but one for buying any of this junk.

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My biggest question, is does it really make a difference to have a magnetic plug? Is there enough steel parts falling apart in our motors to make a difference?




Don't forget that the engine oil is shared with the gearbox on these bikes. (absolutely the worst decision that Triumph made!) Every time a shift doesn't go as planned, the oil gets a liberal sprinkling of steel shavings. Sure, the filter will trap a lot, but there could be some sharp enough to cut through the filter paper and let more shavings and dirt run through the system.


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don't know if they still include it, but all my old kaws came stock w/ a magnetic oil plug.

i think these ne tri bikes probably don't need them, but i always get that small anount of paste off the plug end.

cat


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What is a cresent wrench?



A crescent wrench is the wrong tool for any job.







OH!!!! a Crescent hammer .


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My biggest question, is does it really make a difference to have a magnetic plug? Is there enough steel parts falling apart in our motors to make a difference?




Don't forget that the engine oil is shared with the gearbox on these bikes. (absolutely the worst decision that Triumph made!) Every time a shift doesn't go as planned, the oil gets a liberal sprinkling of steel shavings. Sure, the filter will trap a lot, but there could be some sharp enough to cut through the filter paper and let more shavings and dirt run through the system.




Right on GB. Anything that keeps any crap from circulating has to be a good thing.


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Seems like a magnettic drain plug is barely more expensive than a REGULAR drain plug, and certainly isn't hurting anything, so sucker or not, why NOT get one?!


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If an oil is doing its job properly, it should suspend dirt, metallic wear materials, and unburned carbon. Only the smallest amount should ever get to the magnet.

If you really want to keep the things inside clean think airplane. Change oil every 25 hours of operation.


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If you really want to keep the things inside clean think airplane. Change oil every 25 hours of operation.






Can't argue that one. Makes that magnet sound pretty cheap though, doesn't it?


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It is amzing to me how much we (on this site) seem to affect potential vendors. It is pretty cool. On http://www.magneticdrainplug.com/MagneticOilDrainPlugsSearch.html they have posted this:
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Triumph Motorcycle Owners:

We have a few of the motorcycles listed and are
working this week to add the entire Triumph line to
our search engine.

Stay tuned!





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