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Well This is only one of the things that the EU want to do .France wants to ban bikes over 7 years old from urban areas for environmental reasons. Ireland plans compulsory, full sleeve day-glo jackets for riders and pillions, France is debating compulsory reflective/day-glo clothing. Here's a limk to more info on this subject which is going to be voted on by the MEP committee discussing this in the autumn. Once it gets in the EU it then starts. Look what happened to the LBs v Kilo .Soon be mph v kph .What will they want to do to us uk bikers next  Drive on the wrong side of the road as well http://www.mag-uk.org/en/campaignsdetail/a6883atb geoff
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I live my life a happy man knowing nearly every thing I do is illegal in France.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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While attending a Buderus furnace class, I was told that in some parts of Europe old oil burners of certain vintages (15 years or older maybe?) used for home heating are banned, and that modern efficiency level replacements must be installed.
A little off topic - Buderus has one (prototype?) oil fired unit where the exhaust fumes are actually lower in temperature than the heat gain left inside the furnace. I don't know how that rolls - over 100% efficiency? The smoke is so cold that the sulfuric acid byproducts in the spent oil's smoke need to be managed by adding limestone to the juice that drips back down the chimney. I believe that there is a sump for the acid in the flue below where the smoke pipe connects. I believe the sump is where the lime goes to tweak the ph.
The Buderus class was a few years ago, which is 17 eternities as far as my failing memory goes.
More Buderus furnace fun facts (yawn!~) Another Buderus prototype that burns the usual #2 oil has been in use heating a cold weather location milking parlor or the like for a couple of years. It is cranked down to lean burn so hard that the fire box shows no evidence of combustion, and is still silvery clean and new. (Must be stainless if silver & not rusty? Not sure.)
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I live my life a happy man knowing nearly every thing I do is illegal in France.
I'll drink to that. 
Arsenalfan. AKA Mark Able
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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While attending a Buderus furnace class, I was told that in some parts of Europe old oil burners of certain vintages (15 years or older maybe?) used for home heating are banned, and that modern efficiency level replacements must be installed.
A little off topic - Buderus has one (prototype?) oil fired unit where the exhaust fumes are actually lower in temperature than the heat gain left inside the furnace. I don't know how that rolls - over 100% efficiency? The smoke is so cold that the sulfuric acid byproducts in the spent oil's smoke need to be managed by adding limestone to the juice that drips back down the chimney. I believe that there is a sump for the acid in the flue below where the smoke pipe connects. I believe the sump is where the lime goes to tweak the ph.
The Buderus class was a few years ago, which is 17 eternities as far as my failing memory goes.
More Buderus furnace fun facts (yawn!~) Another Buderus prototype that burns the usual #2 oil has been in use heating a cold weather location milking parlor or the like for a couple of years. It is cranked down to lean burn so hard that the fire box shows no evidence of combustion, and is still silvery clean and new. (Must be stainless if silver & not rusty? Not sure.)
Jeeze, i hope when we are at the rally and stuck in that little cabin in the pouring rain that this won't be a topic of conversation. 
if life gives you lemons keep them because hey,free lemons.
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I love Montana.
Yeah John, I hear there's very few French people in Montana. 
(...heck, for THAT matter, considering Montana is the 4th largest state in the Union in area, and yet has a population of less than a million, there's very few of ANY KIND of people there, huh?!...it's NO WONDER ya love it there!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Yep, Montana is the perfect place for militant separatists, and serial killers. 
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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Montana is the home of abundant wildlife...
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Nah Chad, I think you're talkin' about the next state over to the west there...Idaho! (...as I recall, Montana is where I've heard the cattle have learned to sleep with one eye opened!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Dwight, do you reckon ole John knows how to stump break cows?
'06 TBA - Black, AI and Snorkel removed, K&N Drop In, Gutted Stock Pipes, 145/42, 2 turns out.
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I live my life a happy man knowing nearly every thing I do is illegal in France.
I'll drink to that.
Can I get an "Amen" to that! 
Karl
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'06 TBA - Black, AI and Snorkel removed, K&N Drop In, Gutted Stock Pipes, 145/42, 2 turns out.
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Won't be long before they try to start passing laws like those in France and Ireland here.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Dwight, do you reckon ole John knows how to stump break cows?
I was raised in southern California, WTF do you think? 
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I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Now I don't care who you are that is funny!
'06 TBA - Black, AI and Snorkel removed, K&N Drop In, Gutted Stock Pipes, 145/42, 2 turns out.
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Well This is only one of the things that the EU want to do .France wants to ban bikes over 7 years old from urban areas for environmental reasons. Ireland plans compulsory, full sleeve day-glo jackets for riders and pillions, France is debating compulsory reflective/day-glo clothing. Here's a limk to more info on this subject which is going to be voted on by the MEP committee discussing this in the autumn. Once it gets in the EU it then starts. Look what happened to the LBs v Kilo .Soon be mph v kph .What will they want to do to us uk bikers next Drive on the wrong side of the road as well
http://www.mag-uk.org/en/campaignsdetail/a6883 atb geoff
Truly worrying developments with these Eurocrats. The French biking community are having a day of protest on 10th September with ours on the 25th (see Hedgehogs thread in events and rallies).
I will be going my bit.
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While attending a Buderus furnace class, I was told that in some parts of Europe old oil burners of certain vintages (15 years or older maybe?) used for home heating are banned, and that modern efficiency level replacements must be installed.
A little off topic - Buderus has one (prototype?) oil fired unit where the exhaust fumes are actually lower in temperature than the heat gain left inside the furnace. I don't know how that rolls - over 100% efficiency? The smoke is so cold that the sulfuric acid byproducts in the spent oil's smoke need to be managed by adding limestone to the juice that drips back down the chimney. I believe that there is a sump for the acid in the flue below where the smoke pipe connects. I believe the sump is where the lime goes to tweak the ph.
The Buderus class was a few years ago, which is 17 eternities as far as my failing memory goes.
More Buderus furnace fun facts (yawn!~) Another Buderus prototype that burns the usual #2 oil has been in use heating a cold weather location milking parlor or the like for a couple of years. It is cranked down to lean burn so hard that the fire box shows no evidence of combustion, and is still silvery clean and new. (Must be stainless if silver & not rusty? Not sure.)
Jeeze, i hope when we are at the rally and stuck in that little cabin in the pouring rain that this won't be a topic of conversation.
Oh no - I'm saving my stories of stamp & sea shell collecting for that. If I run out of those, we can talk quilting and scrapbook making.
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Yep, Montana is the perfect place for militant separatists, and serial killers.
We generally refer to them as neighbours here. When not otherwise occupied separating or killing cereal, they work for the Tourism bureau. 
jh
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I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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well on the up side , they'll have a sheet load of 2005 and older bikes going cheap .do they have craigslist or kijijji over there  .cheap ciggies cheap booze and soon to be cheap bikes ,suddenly France is lookin good .
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Yep, Montana is the perfect place for militant separatists, and serial killers.
We generally refer to them as neighbours here. When not otherwise occupied separating or killing cereal, they work for the Tourism bureau. 
They're great neighbors, just try not to look them in the eye or let them catch you staring...
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