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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftG-l3FBLpII hope the politicians heard this. I know this man and he is a super guy who can run a great school!
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this speach by Matt Damen is great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqOub-heGQc&NR=1I HOPE YOU ALL TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO BOTH THESE VIDS. BEING THE HUSBAND OF A TEACHER WHOS ABOUT TO GET A PAY CUT BECAUSE "TEACHERS ARE OVERPAID" THIS IS IMPORTANT!
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same thing is going on here in new york.. some are even getting laid off...
and I am for it.... school is about the kids... not keeping jobs for the teachers if they give me the choice of cutting a program for a child or we cut a teacher ..I will vote we keep the program ...
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Oh boy. Here we go again.
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Not sure I follow what your trying to say. Keep the program and cut the teacher? or what? what is happening is all school funding is being tied to testing scores. Politicians are saying teachers make too much money. Maybe at the prep schools all the politicians have been to, I know many a teacher who works 12- 14 hours a day. This includes staying late to help the kid who asked for help, and countless hours of lesson planning and grading. I am just trying to make sence of what you said so I can read it out of the correct context. (God knows that hasn't happened around here b4!  LOLOLOL)
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Oh boy. Here we go again.
No John, not trying to start any fights. I just wanted to post something that I felt important. I promise not to rage. I will also keep any negitive thoughts to my self. 
But as things go,,, I can only speak for myself. 
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I know it's not this way in every state..but here in new york. I pay a school tax as a land owner and trust me I pay over 500 buck a month in my mortgage payment for county/school taxes..so yes I do feel I get to say something about it when they take $$$$ money out of my pocket and yes I will keep it civil.... ED 
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Not sure I follow what your trying to say. Keep the program and cut the teacher? or what?
what is happening is all school funding is being tied to testing scores. Politicians are saying teachers make too much money.
Maybe at the prep schools all the politicians have been to,
I know many a teacher who works 12- 14 hours a day. This includes staying late to help the kid who asked for help, and countless hours of lesson planning and grading.
I am just trying to make sence of what you said so I can read it out of the correct context. (God knows that hasn't happened around here b4! LOLOLOL)
yes that is what I am saying keep program ...
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Well, all I can say here is, there must be somethin' goin' awfully wrong with our educational system.... http://whoknew.news.yahoo.com/?nc&vid=26286113Though if ya ask ME, I think this sad bit of "Who knew?" information says a lot MORE about U.S. PARENTS and THEIR lack of instilling in their OWN kids an "educational work ethic", than it does about the teachers! YEP! I hope you folks realize that our "American culture" has always somehow perversely "prided" itself on being anti-intellectual! (...and yep, John...here we go AGAIN!!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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yes I know many ppl have heartach over school tax. Mostly thoes who do not have kids. I agree that ppl in apartment should pay some kind of tax since they own no property.
I will say that there were a few teachers in my time that probably should not have been a teacher,,, but lets be real,,, I know Technicians who would be better ditch diggers. We can only hope to have the good ones around who did inspire us and give us insperation.
BTW I realize that this topic is one where we all must agree to disagree. I just find it interesting to hear all views. It helps me to maybe see a angle on soemthing I had not thought of.
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I have 3 kids..one is still in high school
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BTW I wasnt aiming that at you. It was just a comment that I have heard guys around the plant make. It just kills me.
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If we spend the 2nd highest in the world per student on education and are about 17th in the world in proficiency there seems to be a disconnect.
I think two things are playing out at the same time. Neither of which involve the competency of the teachers. First they have to test on basic core stuff. So the teachers spend weeks getting kids ready to pass the test. This takes valuable time from school itself, being taught a test. My question is, if our kids are falling behind other nations, who test the test? Are we wasting time testing them, depriving them of the time needed to really teach them?
Item two is much more severe. Too many of us send our kids to school to be raised. We are roo busy to ask about homework, ensure they have a good work ethic for study. We have parents that don't even ask what subjects the kids have or when test are given. They really don't care. They leave their kids just floating on their on. Those kids have two strikes against them.
Our teachers are good but they can't raise the kids, do their homework, and then tutor them for test. The parents in the U.S. are failing their children. They need to be available, they need to care, they need to push their children to learn what the school has to offer.
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If we spend the 2nd highest in the world per student on education and are about 17th in the world in proficiency there seems to be a disconnect.
I think two things are playing out at the same time. Neither of which involve the competency of the teachers. First they have to test on basic core stuff. So the teachers spend weeks getting kids ready to pass the test. This takes valuable time from school itself, being taught a test. My question is, if our kids are falling behind other nations, who test the test? Are we wasting time testing them, depriving them of the time needed to really teach them?
Item two is much more severe. Too many of us send our kids to school to be raised. We are roo busy to ask about homework, ensure they have a good work ethic for study. We have parents that don't even ask what subjects the kids have or when test are given. They really don't care. They leave their kids just floating on their on. Those kids have two strikes against them.
Our teachers are good but they can't raise the kids, do their homework, and then tutor them for test. The parents in the U.S. are failing their children. They need to be available, they need to care, they need to push their children to learn what the school has to offer.
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I am a teacher in the PREP/PRIVATE school system and my wife is a teacher in the PUBLIC system.
Just wanted to say I agree with Saxtron about the public system which is what we are really talking about here. Kids are being taught a test and MAP scores are what the govt. is looking at. Then all scores are compared school to school. Funding is based on those scores and it puts the focus of the teacher in the wrong place.
In regard to the comment above about teachers making too much maybe in the PREP schools...Ummmmm NO!
Public school teachers make a ton more than PREP teachers. I make a lot less than my wife, I don't get a retirement program like she does, mine's a joke really. In fact, my pay has decreased over the last two years because the prep schools are hurting for tuition money these days. Starting salary at my PREP school that has a tuition of 21,000 dollars/year per student is about 35,000 dollars/year.
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same thing is going on here in new york.. some are even getting laid off...
and I am for it.... school is about the kids... not keeping jobs for the teachers if they give me the choice of cutting a program for a child or we cut a teacher ..I will vote we keep the program ...
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How about keep the teachers and the classes. Get rid of the administration and administrative assistants, oh and while your at it stop building multi million dollar admin buildings. That's the waste. I home school my kids anyway
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Just throwing more money at the schools is not the answer. get rid of the unions, get rid of the standardized testing. Let the teachers that can teach, teach. And fire the rest.
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I'm sorry but this pisses me off. Why the hell would you get rid of essential workers and keep middle management. Teacher do the damn job and have to deal with idiots who think that testing means something, and undisciplined children that the parents don't give a crap about. They drop their little animals off to the baby sitter, meanwhile teachers are screwed by test results and disruptive beasts. So their hands are tied and can't teach the ones who are there and will learn. Aaaaaggghhhh!
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I agree with you. But how many teachers out there just don't care anymore or plain stink. We all went to school, so we should remember that we had same really bad teachers and we had some really great teachers. You cant fire the bad or complacent ones because of the unions. I know there are plenty of great teachers out there that actually teach and know how to get a hold of the kid's attention.
Administrative staff, yep, cut back on them.
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Right on, I agree totally. I started typing up the last post before I saw yours it wasn't aimed toward you or your statement. Just the blanket statement get rid of teachers. I say let teachers teach get rid of politics. If we haven't figured out politicians are next to retarded there is no hope.
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get the government out of the school buisness and i am sure it would be a whole different story!!!! same holds true for a lot of other things the gov. has its claws into. my daughter is a school teacher and she refuses to teach at a gov. run school. so i have heard stories. like some have said, there are good teachers and there are bad, but if you cant get rid of the bad....then what?? what have you got?? its like changing the oil and not the filter. what have you got?? dirty oil.
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Just throwing more money at the schools is not the answer. get rid of the unions, get rid of the standardized testing. Let the teachers that can teach, teach. And fire the rest.
Well Soren, like I said way up there at the beginning and like Ron pretty much reiterated under it...tell me...can we ALSO FIRE the friggin' PARENTS who just send their little darlings off to public schools daily and who apparently expect said public schools to raise them for them, TOO???
(...oh, and I see nobody around here wants to challenge my observation about our country's long standing tradition of being anti-intellectual, eh?!...well, at least THAT'S good, 'cause it appears at least a few folks around here recognize the TRUTH in THAT statement!!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I am a teacher in the PREP/PRIVATE school system and my wife is a teacher in the PUBLIC system.
Just wanted to say I agree with Saxtron about the public system which is what we are really talking about here. Kids are being taught a test and MAP scores are what the govt. is looking at. Then all scores are compared school to school. Funding is based on those scores and it puts the focus of the teacher in the wrong place.
In regard to the comment above about teachers making too much maybe in the PREP schools...Ummmmm NO!
Public school teachers make a ton more than PREP teachers. I make a lot less than my wife, I don't get a retirement program like she does, mine's a joke really. In fact, my pay has decreased over the last two years because the prep schools are hurting for tuition money these days. Starting salary at my PREP school that has a tuition of 21,000 dollars/year per student is about 35,000 dollars/year.
And if ya ask ME, Chris, I've always been of the mind that people such as your poor wife who teaches at public schools DESERVE to be paid more than teachers such as yourself who work in the private school sectors. And THAT'S 'cause YOU at least get some support from the PARENTS(there's that word again, huh?!) who shell out some of their income to make sure their kids are learning and thus are more likely to take an active role in their kid's education, as compared to many if not MOST parents who just send their little darlings off to public schools and expect the teachers THERE to "raise" them for 'em!
(...uh huh...ever seen the turn out at any of the PTA meetings at public schools, folks?!...it's friggin' PATHETIC!!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Let me drag this a little OT for a second. Dwight commented on the nation being anti-intellectual. Watch the President and how the Republican candidates talk. They adopt certain speech patterns depending on where they are. Wait til they go to New England, it will all change.
From listening to Obama for years. His diction is generally perfect leading up to the last few months.
"Everybody here is thnkin that we in the capitol are not carin enough and have no plan on fixin the economy."
What!! His thought process is that if I have to talk to these stupid people I have to sound like an average Joe too. Its like Dwight said we may have a prejudice against smart.
Remember Bush and his Texas banter and swagger. He was raised in New England! He drank, I mean went to Yale. He doesn't talk like that. He really is pretty stupid but was trained by his brain named Carl to act that way.
Dwight I think you may have hit on something.
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Well Ron ol' buddy, what say we don't go all "political" here, okay?!  'Cause ya see, that strain of "Anti-intellectualism" I was talkin' about here runs SOOOOOO friggin' deep in this country, that it suuuuuure ISN'T just those Politicos out there who suffer from it, ya know!!! That "stuff" runs REAL DEEP through ALL the many facets of this country, and always has!!! (...and then we all sit around here and wonder why little Johnny and Susan don't know that Raleigh is the friggin' capital of North Carolina, just as that "Who Knew?" link I supplied showed!...and don't EVEN get me started about those "Jay Walking" spots on "The Tonight Show"!!!!) 
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Well, all I can say here is, there must be somethin' goin' awfully wrong with our educational system....
http://whoknew.news.yahoo.com/?nc&vid=26286113
Though if ya ask ME, I think this sad bit of "Who knew?" information says a lot MORE about U.S. PARENTS and THEIR lack of instilling in their OWN kids an "educational work ethic", than it does about the teachers! YEP! I hope you folks realize that our "American culture" has always somehow perversely "prided" itself on being anti-intellectual!
(...and yep, John...here we go AGAIN!!!!)
If you would read some A.A. Stagg the father of modern education you would know how and why we are where are in education here.
As far as anti intellectualism goes, it is a bit of hyperbole created by Hollyweird that had become true. We didn't become the most advanced nation years ago by choosing ignorance the way we have these days.
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Just a few random thoughts....
How DO you weed out the good teachers from the bad, if testing is not the way? You have to have a way to measure their performance?
What do you do when parents won't/can't/don't raise their offspring to be decent people, and the system won't let teachers discipline the little brats anymore?
I know overpaid teachers and underpaid teachers, I've had good teachers and bad teachers at every level, and the system is broken. How do you fix it?
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Too many of us send our kids to school to be raised. We are roo busy to ask about homework, ensure they have a good work ethic for study ... They really don't care. They leave their kids just floating on their own.
We are facing the exact same problem/s here (parents not caring and sending their kids to school to be raised).
It's a sign of the times (actually a decade or two, at least).
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How do you weed out bad teachers? Look at the average GPA of their class if its a normal bell curve with its peak near the national average for that class and demographic the that teacher is ok. If its low there is a reason if its high their is a reason, as in markedly high or low.
How do you deal with unruly children send them home if they break the law arrest the parents too let them sit in jail together. Military school may be a better option.
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Well, all I can say here is, there must be somethin' goin' awfully wrong with our educational system....
http://whoknew.news.yahoo.com/?nc&vid=26286113
Though if ya ask ME, I think this sad bit of "Who knew?" information says a lot MORE about U.S. PARENTS and THEIR lack of instilling in their OWN kids an "educational work ethic", than it does about the teachers! YEP! I hope you folks realize that our "American culture" has always somehow perversely "prided" itself on being anti-intellectual!
(...and yep, John...here we go AGAIN!!!!)
If you would read some A.A. Stagg the father of modern education you would know how and why we are where are in education here.
As far as anti intellectualism goes, it is a bit of hyperbole created by Hollyweird that had become true. We didn't become the most advanced nation years ago by choosing ignorance the way we have these days.
Oh "yeah"! When in doubt, we can ALWAYS blame all of our collective faults on "Hollyweird", huh Chad!!!
So dude, tell me somethin' here...WHERE exactly does the idea of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY(a great little "catchphrase" that one particular segment of our society just seems to LOVE to trot out at their convenience) about the idea of PARENTS making sure that their "little Johnnies and Susans" know what the friggin' capital of North Carolina is, HUH???
And PLEASE don't tell me that that was "all taken away from us when they socialized education". 'Cause dude, THAT is CRAP!!!
(...'cause once again, PARENTS need to take RESPONSIBILITY for their kid's education, NO MATTER if they send their little darlings off to Public OR Private schools....GOT IT???!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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same thing is going on here in new york.. some are even getting laid off...
and I am for it.... school is about the kids... not keeping jobs for the teachers if they give me the choice of cutting a program for a child or we cut a teacher ..I will vote we keep the program ...
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+1 My sister and mom are teachers (mom retired from private school teaching) I think in addition to this they need to change the retirement package. Not sure about the rest of the country but here a public school teacher gets 100% of their pay as retirement unlike my mom who had to save like most of the rest of us. They could then put that money they save to the students or to keep property taxes at bay. Taxes are extremely high where I live.
As for private vs public pay, my sister makes more than my mom did and it really is higher than it needs to be since she can afford $400 boots while supporting her 2 kids alone. I won't post what she makes but it is close to 3 times what I do. Over paid is a matter of perspective, I think if the programs don't suffer and people are not being forced into foreclosure then they are not over paid at any rate if they do a good job. If programs suffer and property taxes are through the roof then pay should be cut to a more reasonable level and they should have to save for retirement like the rest of us.
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In regards to Hollywierd. Well, it is pretty weird there. They have hippies and all.
Is Real Housewives of anyplace really a highly rated show?
Folks, sound the alarm! The dumbing down of America is finally complete. Mission Accomplished.
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You cant fire the bad or complacent ones because of the unions.
This is untrue. There are steps that are taken to eliminate sub standard teachers. I know in your perfect union-less world, everyone would be working for pennies on the dollar with no benefits, good idea.
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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You failed to understand what I said. Anti intellectualism is a Hollywood stereo type. That does not mean that people had to allow it to become true. So it is the peoples fault not Hollywood they could have tuned out and turned off or just took it for what it is.
If you would read some Stagg and Carl Sandburg (I think that's his last name I'll find out later for sure) its pretty revealing.
I never take personal responsibility out of the equation ever! Like I said I home school mine there by taking full responsibility for the education of my own.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Oh, and btw Chad...in answer to your supposition about America not being an anti-intellectual society... Maybe you don't realize this, BUT it doesn't take being an "intellectual" to become RICH!!! And brother, THAT'S exactly what has made this country so powerful. Our love for the "Almighty Dollar" above all else. (...though, there certainly is NOTHING wrong about that...personally I LOVE the "Almighty Dollar" MYSELF!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Should be Riding
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+1 My sister and mom are teachers (mom retired from private school teaching) I think in addition to this they need to change the retirement package. Not sure about the rest of the country but here a public school teacher gets 100% of their pay as retirement unlike my mom who had to save like most of the rest of us. They could then put that money they save to the students or to keep property taxes at bay. Taxes are extremely high where I live.
Here in MO, it is said to have one of the best retirement programs in the country. 85% of salary of top 3 year average. My wife is a teacher and puts in 16% of her salary into retirement. Don't make it sound like it's just gifted money. If you put that % of your check into a system for 30 years (+ employer contribution), don't you think you'd be entitled to a nice retirement pay out?
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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Ok on union they just go to far now, we need to protect the workers or like you said the companies would run rough shot over the workers. However too many times is the case now that they run rough shot over the employers. Too many american companies are gone because its cheaper to ship and pay import or export taxes along with the other added expense of expediting the affairs of operating in another country, than to pay Americans. I am sure there is a tipping point with that, and a reasonable compromise.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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The biggest problem with our schools is the over staffed admin. Way top heavy in that Dept. Wa. State probably approaches 1 administrator for every 2 or 3 teachers, then the duplicity of the federal Dept. of Educ. It has gotten out of hand IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded 
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You failed to understand what I said. Anti intellectualism is a Hollywood stereo type. That does not mean that people had to allow it to become true.
Nope, I got your meaning, alright! And I still say that that supposition is all wet.
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So it is the peoples fault not Hollywood they could have tuned out and turned off or just took it for what it is.
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I never take personal responsibility out of the equation ever! Like I said I home school mine there by taking full responsibility for the education of my own.
Well, I think that's great! Though tell me...Who do you bring in to teach the subject of SPELLING when those days roll around????
(...sorry bro, I couldn't resist that one...and besides, I DO have to admit that I've seen a marked improvement in this regard from ya these last few months!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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+1 My sister and mom are teachers (mom retired from private school teaching) I think in addition to this they need to change the retirement package. Not sure about the rest of the country but here a public school teacher gets 100% of their pay as retirement unlike my mom who had to save like most of the rest of us. They could then put that money they save to the students or to keep property taxes at bay. Taxes are extremely high where I live.
Here in MO, it is said to have one of the best retirement programs in the country. 85% of salary of top 3 year average. My wife is a teacher and puts in 16% of her salary into retirement. Don't make it sound like it's just gifted money. If you put that % of your check into a system for 30 years (+ employer contribution), don't you think you'd be entitled to a nice retirement pay out?
I am not talking about anything saved I am talking about what my sister gets if she pays 0 in. It is in her contract. I have nothing against a pension but 85% or above is a bit much in my opinion. A saved percentage plus that percentage matched is more reasonable.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
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