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Sitting in a pub in Boyganville and after a few beers and a little conversation I bought me a 1963 Triumph TR6 Trophy. It has been sitting in a garage for 26 years! The guy I bought it from changed the fork and seat. Most of the rest is there but it looks like I have my workcut out for me.

The only numbers I have are the stamped enging # TR6SSDU1924
and the front down tube DU1924 F6264. I know there is a vin# somewhere but dont see it. Where do I look?

I'd include some pics . Posted on Photobucket

Congratulations! I'm sure the restoration will be a worthy project. As for the VIN #, I can't help you but someone here should be able to chime in with some help.

Welcome, Jim.

Sounds like quite the find there, alright!

Re the VIN#: Not sure exactly what you mean here?! My 1970 Triumph Bonnie only has the two series of numbers as you first mentioned, i.e., the numbers stamped on the left side of the frame down tube and just below the neck, and the numbers stamped on the engine block's left side, just below the cylinder barrels.

Nice , but go find that barn , and stash that seat in it !

no sh*t!

I don't know... I think it looks kinda comfy, lol!! (Hard to believe there was a time when that kinda thing was considered cool)

call me strange, but I kinda like the look the seat gives it.

the vin# is the # stamped on the engine.

Looks like quite a nice project there, once the seat lights and handlebars go away

I don't know much about the numbers, but Dwight there's pretty knowledgeable, as is Ian (he hasn't chimed in yet, I know he will ).

Ye olde Dromedary seat.

The lower fork legs and triple trees are correct as is the front wheel. Forks by Frank can hook you up with the correct length tubes. The parts you need are easy to find. You have the VIN right there , the ones on the down tube.

I like it. I wouldnt change anything.

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Technical Info > Triumph Engine & Frame Numbers
Triumph - Twins 1950 - 69 Year Engine No. Unit 350 & 500cc Engine No. Pre-Unit 500 & 650cc
Engine & frame numbers on these models were all the same & were preceded by the model code. The N suffix was used in 1950 & NA for 1951/2. 350/500 twins all used an H prefix. The 650 models with the duplex frame used a D prefix & unit 650 duplex used a DU prefix. Additional suffixes were used to designate model type or condition eg. TT (model type), C (high compression) or P (police). Some of these only appeared in certain markets.
1950 From 100N
1951 101NA - 15808NA
1952 15809NA - 25000NA, then 25000 - 32302
1953 32303 - 44134
1954 44135 - 56699
1955 56700 - 70929
1956 70930 - 82799, then 0100 - 0944
1957 H101 - H760 0945 - 011115
1958 H761 - H5484 011116 - 020075
1959 H5485 - H11511 020076 - 029363
1960 H11512 - H18611 029364 - 030424, then D101 - D7726
1961 H18612 - H25251 D7727 - D15788
1962 H25252 - H29732 D15789 on
Engine No. Unit 650cc
1963 H29733 - H32464 DU101 - DU5824
1964 H32465 - H35986 DU5825 - DU13374
1965 H35987 - H40527 DU13375 - DU24874
1966 H40528 - H49832 DU24875 - DU44393
1967 H49833 - H57082 DU44394 - DU66245
1968 H57083 - H65572 DU66246 - DU85903
1969 H65573 - H67331 DU85904 - DU90282



Triumph Twins, Triples & Singles - 1969-1983 Letter Month Model Year
During 1969 a new number system was introduced which used a two-letter prefix indicating month & year, followed by the model type & the serial number. The first letter is the month, the second the year. This system used the Triumph model year not calendar year, which ran from August of the previous year to July of the current year. From July 1980 a third letter A was added to allow the system to keep going. Many model types included a V which designates a 5 speed gearbox.



For example: T140V HK12345 - is a 5 speed T140 model built in July of model year 1974/75.

Also; T140E NDA12345 - Is a T140E model built in October of model year 1982.

A January Aug 1978 - July 1979
B February Aug 1979 - July 1980
C March Aug 1968 - July 1969
D April Aug 1969 - July 1970
E May Aug 1970 - July 1971
G June Aug 1971 - July 1972
H July Aug 1972 - July 1973
J August Aug 1973 - July 1974
K September Aug 1974 - July 1975
N October Aug 1975 - July 1976
P November Aug 1976 - July 1977
X December Aug 1977 - July 1978
KDA 1981 models Sept 1980 - Apr 1981
EDA 1982 models May 1981 - Jan 1982
BEA 1983 models Feb 1982 - Jan 1983
T140V AEA34393 - Last model Jan 21st, 1983



Harris Twins - 1985-1988 Year Engine & Frame Number
The easiest of the lot. The numbers were used for both Bonneville & Tiger models irrelevant of model type. 1985 FN000002 - FN000191
1986 GN000192 - GN000788
1987 HN000789 - HN001176
1988 JN001177 - JN001258



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Ed

The seat needs to be set on fire and run over by a bus.

That seat could seriously affect your choice of pillion

Becareful that sentence could come back around to haunt you!! but in answer to your reply! i agree

Don't try to start it, no matter how much oil spurts out of the rocker feeds when you kick it over, or how bright the plugs fire, trust me, been there, done that. Mine ran about 12 minutes after the find, and seized due to the sludge trap in the crankshaft being clogged. I have learned EVERYTHING the HARD way on these...Take it completely apart, clean thoroughly, measure, measure again, replace as required...do it right the first time...approachin $3500 now on my find, and still not done....www.britbike.com

pre 72 I think .. title by the engine #'s
after about 72-73 the vin/ title #'s are the
ones on the frame.. a 63 should be a pre-unit ..
congrats.. and a Merry New Year ...

63 would be unit construction, 62 was the last pre-unit Triumph. The mono-block carb was on only older bikes but the primary cover is a later cover. I see a mix and match of parts on the engine. The rockers are older used until early 70s but are older style since they don't have a plug on the side for valve adjustment. Head is older style, in 72 they started using the push in style headers instead of the nipples. Front wheel would be consistant with early 60s. If the engine number is stamped on the casting with just clean aluminum behind it that would also be consistant with early 60s, later 60s and on they were stamped on a pad that had Triumph stamped many times on the pad before the numbers were stamped. Can't tell too much more from the pic., it's too blurry.

Hi:

According to your #'s posted (DU1924 is the VIN), it's a 1963 650 cc Trophy as you stated. The 'TR6SS' is the model of the bike. At least the frame and motor block are

(Introduced in 1962 and offered through 1966 was the TR6SS model which sported a 2 into 1 exhaust but was otherwise similar to the road going model. The TR6SS used the cheaper K2F magneto rather than the competition K2FC used previously.) ('Wikipedia')

Hope this helps

The magnito would have only been on the 62, 63 through 66 were unit construction but 62 was a pre-unit. Unit construction bikes used points mounted on a plate in the the timing cover with the point cam/advance unit mounted to the end of the exhaust cam. The coils were up under the seat.

The model was actually introduced in 1956 as the Trophy-bird TR6. It changed over the years and had a detachable headlight because it was popularly used in compitions off road and the Pre-unit models had the red labled magnito. The bikes used the same engine as the T-110 and at one point (can't remember when) had the cyl. painted silver. They also used a different alloy head on them but can't remember what the difference was. The early Pre-unit alloy heads were made the same as the iron heads and tended to crack between the head bolts and valve seats. That is why you will see many of the old bikes have a more modern head and cyl. on them with the 9 bolt configuration.

That 63 should have an updated 8 bolt head on it if original. That head didn't have the cracking problem the pre-units did but was still not as good as the later 9 bolt.