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What is the last year that the America was made in England?Rudy
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2006 for North America and Australia. They are still made in England for Europe I think.
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I order tempcon neck bearing for my 03 and they told me they would fit between 02 and 07 frame. So I was wondering about the 07.Rudy
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2004 was the last year that all America, Speedmaster and Bonneville variations were completely built and assembled in the U.K. for North America and Australia. 2006 for the rest of the world. Between '04 and '06 assembly was phased over to the Tailand assembly (assembly NOT manufacturing) plant. However, you can still say that that our bikes are still made in England as the motors and frames are still being built in Hinkley, but are just merely assembled in Tailand.
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I order tempcon neck bearing for my 03 and they told me they would fit between 02 and 07 frame. So I was wondering about the 07.Rudy
That wouldnt have anything to do with where your bike was assembled. 2008 is when Triumph started introducing fuel injection on the paralell twins. So, there may or may not be a difference in the frame, but was considered different than previous years.
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I am mad as h#ll now.  If I wanted a rice burner I would have bought one. I wanted an angelophile bike not a commie rice patty tractor.  I am throwing her in the dumpster. Iguess its a Harley now.
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that post is a joke I love my Matilda.
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I have been told by a reliable source that they manufacture and assemble all models for 3 years at Hinkley.
From then, they are all manufactured at Hinkley, but some are assembled in Hinkley and some in Thailand.
I have also been informed that the Thailand assembly plant has more inspection points than Hinkley
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Our 2007 Speedmaster was built March, 2007 as a 2007 model. It says 'Great Britain' on the badge. We're in Canada, and our 2007 is a California model bought new here. Were America's not made at the same place as Speedmasters? Also, the VIN of both our 2007 and 2010 Speedmasters starts with 'SM'. SA to SM signifies Great Britain as country of origin. HTH, H.
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My '03 says "Made in Great Britain" on the little triangle.
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Look at the 11th digit in the VIN. T for Thailand, J for Hinkley
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Interesting. The 11th digit is a T on both our bikes, but yet they say Great Britain on them, and both VINs start with SM, which is the country code.  H.
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HELLOOOOO....... Triumphs are British motorcycles.. period, end of story no matter where it was assembled (which is different than manufactured or built). Geeeze... They're still be best bikes on the planet, so get over it already!
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I'm not disputing the quality of the bike. That's not my point. I'm curious as to how the bike has a badge that says 'Great Britain' on it, when its not made there. Seems a little odd, doesn't it? If anything, I think that's a bit misleading. Just my opinion.
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Look at the 11th digit in the VIN. T for Thailand, J for Hinkley
...and if it's an "M", then it was made in Milwaukee.
Also, look to see if your bike has an extra cylinder head stickin' behind the other as in a "V" formation. If it does, then immediately return your bike to your nearest Triumph Dealer for an exchange.
(...'cause you have a lemon on your hands, dude!!!) 
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I'm not disputing the quality of the bike. That's not my point. I'm curious as to how the bike has a badge that says 'Great Britain' on it, when its not made there. Seems a little odd, doesn't it? If anything, I think that's a bit misleading. Just my opinion.
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Well, look at it this way H...
Lets, for argument sake, say you've just purchased a Widget that has stamped on it, "Wildwood Widget Company of Walla Walla Washington". However, later you discover your Widget was ACTUALLY manufactured in the Wildwood Widget Company of Walla Walla Washington's offshore Widget factory at Windermere(that's in the Lake District of Jolly Ole England, btw...someplace I hope to visit one day...but I digress). But, YOU wanted a Widget made in the Good Ol' U.S. of A, and this is kind'a upsetting you for some strange reason.
What do you DO???
Well, I say all ya gotta do is relax and remember THIS new "greeting" that's sweeping the world:
"WELCOME TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, BROTHER!!!"

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?? My vin is composed of letters and numbers. The total is 17 characters. reading left to right, 5 alpha, 4 numeric, 1 alpha, 7 numeric. so where do you count 11th? 2007 america starting with SMTTJ. the other alpha in the middle is "R" does this mean it was assembled in Ruwanda? 
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I'm not disputing the quality of the bike. That's not my point. I'm curious as to how the bike has a badge that says 'Great Britain' on it, when its not made there. Seems a little odd, doesn't it? If anything, I think that's a bit misleading. Just my opinion.
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Not misleading at all. Triumph Motorcycles is a company in Great Britain.
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The plant at Hinkley was assembling bikes when I visited the other week but the from the photos on display the factories in Thailand were much bigger. Components for bikes and cars are sourced all over the world and then often assembled nearer the market or when costs are cheapest. If you buy a Honda a lot of the parts are made in China and could be assembled in the UK but it's still a Japanese bike. It would be interesting to find out if Harley still source all their parts in the States
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The reason I found this a mystery to me is the way the VIN doesn't display the country of manufacture like a car.
For example, a VW made in Germany has a WVW prefix. If its made in Mexico it has a 3VW prefix. If its made in the US it'll be either 1VW or 4VW prefix.
So, when I apply this decode technique to the Triumph, I see SMT which is Great Britain. To me that means that its also made there based on how the VIN is decoded for a car. So, thanks to the explaination of the 11th digit, I now know it's not, and there's a code for the manufacturing plant. To me, this means that decoding the VIN for cars and motorcycles are slightly different.
That's all I was trying to emphasize. I really don't care where my bike was made. I was trying to understand how this was determined.
I did check my official Triumph Service Manual for this information, and I couldn't find anything in it about VIN decoding either.
This is obviously a VERY touchy subject for some.
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I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Interesting. The 11th digit is a T on both our bikes, but yet they say Great Britain on them, and both VINs start with SM, which is the country code. 
H.
, Would SM be Somalia?
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, Would SM be Somalia?
The SM obviously stands for South Merica 
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Nah erle, I think Mr.Bloor is ONLY having his new Triumph line of Pirate Wear being made in Somalia. Yep, I'm pretty sure...just pirate wear...no bikes.
(...yep, word is Mr.Bloor figured Somalia was just a natural choice to start up his new factory there and have them Somali people make his new line of riding attire made specifically for those Harley riders who've just bought a new Triumph but who wouldn't quite feel right yet dressing up any other way before they hop on their motorcycle!!!)
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I found out the truth to as to which manufacturing plant each bike was completed. Remember when you got your brand new ride? It had inspection spots of soft paint all over the place, and you spent hours removing them, only to find more next time you washed it. Well if the spots were blue and white, Hinkley. The Thailand plant used yellow. 
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My '03 build date 11/02 has green inspection paint
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who cares , i mean ive got a Brit built bike with a knee pad tank and i dont care . but i sho is glad i dont own one of them foreign Thaiumphs with that stupid no knee pad tank ,cause i'd have to upgrade to a real British build one with a proper kneepad tank 
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I really don't care either......... 'cause mine's an '03!  That's a joke... just in case! 
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