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Has any one tried EBC's double H sintered pads on these bikes? I'm due a set of brakes and thought I may as well upgrade to a better quality pad. Any insight on these ?
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I personally use organic pads to extend the life of the rotor and the organic pads are cheaper by quite a bit. They don't last as long but you save in the long run. They will fade under hard use but I run my bike fairly hard and have never had them fade. EBC does make good stuff as far as I know so if sintered is what you want it wouldn't hurt to try them out.
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I've got 'em, 2,000 miles so far, and I like 'em. Front only, though - too grippy for the rear.
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I'm on my 2nd set. Just over 10k on the first set, now I have 13k on the 2nd and they should last the rest of this season. They are grippy, but you adapt quickly. I'm on my OEM rotor at 39k. (which still mic's fine)
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Thanks guys, I have front and rear on order.
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Brake pads showed up this morning, installed them and changed the fluid this afternoon. Wow what a difference, if they stay as good as they are new, Triumphs bean counters should be shot for not using these stock.
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Rode from Corbin Ky to Richmond Ky and back today, for those who know the area I took 75 up an 25 back. Bout 150 miles round trip. Any way the EBC HH pads are a huge improvement an they break in quickly.
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Front only, though - too grippy for the rear
Last week I accidently locked up my rear as the driver in front decided to stop rather quickly instead of merg as it appeared she was doing.
Well, being more accustomed to organic pads, I was somewhat taken back by how grippy the relatively new EBC sintered rear pads were. In fact they were so grippy I couldn't believe how easily they locked up and that was in the dry.
Admitedly I didn't apply the front, as I've become used to the rear gripping enough to slow me down and besides, I was also leaning over fairly sharply on a long sweeping roundabout.
Anyway, the worst thing was my rear wheel tried to overtake my front during the brief lockup and I very nearly did a tank slapper before recovering. 
Besides scaring the living sh#t outa me resulting in some damaged pride, I'm actually feeling pretty lucky I didn't end up on the pavement.
To be honest I'd never found the rear brake to be as "effective", if that's the word so for now I'm going to give these EBC sintered pads the respect they deserve or suffer the consequences. 
So for now I've decided to call it a learning experience given it's the first time I've locked up the rear as aggressively as this.
Actually, without blaming the tools instead of the operator, I'm thinking there may well be some real merit in only using the EBC sintered pads for the front 
One other factor I was interested to know was whether having a machined disc with some grooves in it may have also contributed to the debarkle?
Hey, to come off navigating such a simple manouvre like stopping, derr, wouldn't be what I'd call "good riding". So I'd really appreciate any ideas, suggestions or similar experiences so I can put this unexpected occurence into perspective.
Maybe even an advanced riding course isn't such a bad idea after all. Better to swallow one's pride to ensure I'm as best prepared as possible next time my pads and rotor collude in such a nasty malicious plot.
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just use your front brake next time!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not using rear at all
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just use your front brake next time!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not using rear at all
+1 (I only use it in gravel at most)
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Whew... glad you didn't lose it Stacka!!! Meanwhile I gotta put in a vote for using BOTH brakes. In most cases it pays to use both for greatest control. Of course if I had to brake hard in a corner on gravel, I'd leave the front brake alone. However, both brakes are there for a reason. Going back to my bicycle days, I used both then too.
+1 on the advanced rider's course. I know I could use it!!
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You're right on the both brakes advice Keith. I suppose these mistakes are there to learn from. I do think a course is in order cos I've only done a defensive riding course years ago and I think they've got these new courses down pat these days. May even pay for itself in more ways than one too.
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Another vote for both brakes ,although, it is a good thing you didn't grab the front like that in a turn or you would have gone down for sure.
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I use about 70/30% front/rear brakes,seems to work for me so far  I will be due for pads soon so I am interested in other riders opinions.
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Just installed the EBC front pads that Fast Eddy sells. I have never done brakes before so I was a little gun shy about doing it, brakes are kind of semi-important on a motorcycle.....especially when you do a lot of city commuting like I do.
I had BigBill(thanks Bill) show me how it comes apart and where everything goes, it seems simple enough so I was confident when the front pads arrived.
It was so easy to do,the pads can only go in one way.Make sure you keep the pads and rotors clean an free of grease.It took all of 45 minutes to do both front brakes.
The only snag I ran into was my own fault. I installed speed bleeders as i was doing the pads,during the bleeding process I didn't keep the reservoir topped off allowing air into the system. It took a while to get all the air out,that was a PIA.
Anyway,If you need new brakes do it yourself its easy. Don't let the dealer scare you into letting them overcharge for this simple repair.
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If you need new brakes do it yourself its easy. Don't let the dealer scare you into letting them overcharge for this simple repair.
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I actually just got a set of these from our own Fast Eddy.
Only needed the rear, $32.50 including shipping. Ordered 'em
friday and got 'em monday. Eddy's the best! I know they wear out
the rotor a little faster, but I have 40,000mi on Steelheart
and my rotors are still in fine shape. The HH's have a higher
coefficient of friction, so you can stop in a shorter distance.
Just the thing for riding in Miami! There have been times
when I stopped just in time to save my butt, maybe
if I'd had organic pads I would've hit something. BTW, +1
on doing it yourself, it's easy. Compress the brake pistons
back into the caliper first (I use a C-clamp w/ a small piece
of wood to keep from scratching the caliper), and everything
slides right in and out.
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I get my brake pads here or here
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+1 on everything Brian wrote.
Do have a tin of brake cleaner and blast off those pistons before you shove them home.
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