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Hi guys, Since 2 weeks, I encourtered problems with a company who not allow me to write on the tee-shirts I created the text "TRIUMPH-AMERICA.COM". They talk about copyright violation, piracy, mass murderer, chimic weapon ... and so on.  triumph(C)(R)(TM) is a german trade mark of panties, or pad, or something else ... Those assaules said I cannot write the word triumph(C)(R)(TM) . I answered I wrote the word "triumph-america.com" So, I gave up ! I bought a new domain, that call www.yogourtnoway.comI use Code:
RedirectMatch 301 ^/(.*)$ http://www.yogourtnoway.com/$1
in .htaccess for redirection. It's the same site I owned, I'm always here , and I'm OK. So, I recreated some tee-shirtsI have updated the search engine too, it now searchs in the new domain and bonnevilleamerica.com
I do not read/write english very well. Thank's to be patient.
Triumph America/Speedmaster French community : http://www.yogourtnoway.com
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That stinks, it is also a motorcycle and then used in combination like that of an existing entity on the internet seems it would be OK. You can use Triumph as a word on anything since it means to win. That being said I don't know the laws over there or if anyone would do anything about it if they had been printed.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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That stinks, it is also a motorcycle and then used in combination like that of an existing entity on the internet seems it would be OK. You can use Triumph as a word on anything since it means to win. That being said I don't know the laws over there or if anyone would do anything about it if they had been printed.
I know, I can use the word "triumph-america.com" , but I don't want to fight for that. I already spent 2 weeks with assaules , but they are affraid of pursuits by lawyers ...
Now, this is better, I should be quiet for a while . (I hope)
I do not read/write english very well. Thank's to be patient.
Triumph America/Speedmaster French community : http://www.yogourtnoway.com
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Should be Riding
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Did you try Zazzle.com, NinjaZoo.com or CafePress.com?
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Should be Riding
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I like yogurt. 
Blowing gravel off rural roads
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When I first saw the new link I thought he was going for: goyourownway.com...which would be cool.
Then I realized it was closer to yogurt. Yogurt???? huh?
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 You mean those gerry's are back at it again ? How dare they....... my 1/8th French blood is boiling ! and my 1/8th german blood is ashamed..... I feel so conflicted now 
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I like yogurt.
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"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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When I last went to the Farmyard party (first year on the new site), I wanted the 'custom' embroidery bloke to embroider 'Triumph' across the back of my jacket. He said no can do. Copyright don'tcha know. I said just do the 'T' then. He said it was the 'T' that was copyrighted (copy written ... ?) I said, just do 'riumph' then and I'll do the 'T' myself!
He didn't seem to 'get' it ...
"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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Depending upon the local jurisprudence of course, Triumph lingerie cannot prevent you from using Triumph-America.com . In Canada there was a court case where Mattel sued a restaurant called Barbie's for trade mark infringement. The courts ruled that since Mattel's business was toys and not restaurants there would be no confusion between the brands. There was also a more well known court case where Apple, a music production company owned by the Beatles tried to sue Apple (Mac) unsuccessfully again do to the fact that their businesses were different.
You would of course have to stop using the web address if Triumph Motorcycles told you to.
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Should be Riding
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The letter "T" © 400 BC, The Etruscans
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Thanks guys, I know some tips about copyrights. I registered N1bus® here in France. this is my mark , and my company. About YOGOURTNOWAY : As you can imagine, it's a joke with Go Your Own Way. But maybe "Go Your Own Way" it's already registered by triumph motorcycles. "Yogourt No Way" mean absolutly nothing ! that is fun ! it's not so important. I think frenchies will find the site easily because this is the only one about triumph america and speedmaster in french and now I can create tee-shirts 
I do not read/write english very well. Thank's to be patient.
Triumph America/Speedmaster French community : http://www.yogourtnoway.com
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"yogurt no way" sounds like "you got no way" wich seems appropiate. lol
The whole copyright vs. piracy-thing is driving me crazy these days. I like to pay for stuff, but I don't like the way that companies is trying to control every aspect of everything just to make enough money. I play in a band and are just as frustrating for us as "artists".
Even if you buy stuff or supports the artist or local talent, that's not enough these days it seems. "Give them your soul so they can rent it back to you."
Black '07 Speedmaster FTW!
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Keep up the good fight... we're pulling for ya!! And that is a great site you got going there! 
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Thierry, You have a great site! Good luck on your battles with the copyright police. It boggles my mind that something that is a tribute to a brand is considered infringement, but when it comes to anyone making a buck (or euro), its all about control. Never mind that a shirt you sell might influence someone to drop $9k on their brand bike. I am sure that according to the lawyers, that $2 profit you may be making is "damaging" them. yogurtnoway.com is a great answer to that problem! Congrats and good luck to you!
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 I don't like yoghurt, so I can imagine surfing the net and finding this, www.yogourtnoway.com and thinking it might be full of witty scathing comments about mouldy milk, and instead finding a site all about the motorcycle that was the reason man climbed down from the trees so he could invent it How cool is that? 
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I like it Tfrenchy! 
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I can't understand the words!! looks cool!
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I can't understand the words!! looks cool!
Go to Google translate and paste in the address http://translate.google.com/#
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I can't understand the words!! looks cool!
Go to Google translate and paste in the address http://translate.google.com/#
Hey, that translate thing works pretty good!
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if life gives you lemons keep them because hey,free lemons.
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