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ive been told that removing the rubber snorkel type thing from inside the air filter improves performance?,,im just after some info really,is it worth doing?,will it cause damage longterm?
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I did it last weekend and added a K&N air filter at the same time. It increased the low and middle range but the top end suffered. Also the plugs looked like they were running leaner than they already where. I will get a couple of mains (122) I think before doing it.
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I took mine out last week before I got my new K N filter.My original filter was very dirty ,I noticed no differance with it out but certainly felt a bit more with the new kn.
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This should be done with carb adjustments at the same time to gain the performance.
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This should be done with carb adjustments at the same time to gain the performance.
True. In my case I exchanged the snorkel for a bellmouth while adding a K&N and my bike stopped pulling hard, period! Just couldn't do it. Put it all back to stock until I'm ready to fiddle with the carbs.
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 Welcome to the site, and where in Derbyshire?
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Last edited by Staffo; 06/10/2010 9:48 AM.
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I think he is so afraid of tinkering with the carbs......he's bought another bike he doesn't need to. 
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Well those last three posts made me  . That was a priceless scorning you gave me there Staffo... I guess I had THAT one coming!  And then Rob and Greg swoop in for the final blow... sure guys, get me while I'm down!!  . But I'm here often enough to get back at ya all when the time is right. Meanwhile I think I'll go out and wax the Trophy... just to bug ya!! 
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Wax on, wax off........Hope the bug guts stick
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Well those last three posts made me . That was a priceless scorning you gave me there Staffo... I guess I had THAT one coming! And then Rob and Greg swoop in for the final blow... sure guys, get me while I'm down!! . But I'm here often enough to get back at ya all when the time is right. Meanwhile I think I'll go out and wax the Trophy... just to bug ya!!
Did you notice Keith That I just sat back and watched.
Straffo said everything that I thought.
Then Greg came in and put the icing on the cake.
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Ex Speedmaster rider, went to the Dark Side now riding an America.
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Swoop..  ..swoop.. ..like heck...I pounced, clawed, scraped, clubbed, slammed, kicked and finally slid in for the final blow.... If you sell the America...we know where you live.... Swoop, that's below me. BTW, I do ice cakes for my wife, but they come out terrible. The trophy still sucks.
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The trophy still sucks.
Meet me in Wawa, and we'll settle this once and for all! 
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I'll meet you in Wawa if you give me the Trophy. Maybe I can appreciate it a bit more if I own it for you. That is always an option given the comments on the other post. Just trying to help.....right..... 
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You don't say if your bike is EFI or carburated. The replies above relate to carbed bikes. On an EFI bike the EFI will self regulate the AF mixture to accommodate the snorkel removal and also K&N filter.
Removing the snorkel won't cause any damage on an EFI bike. Running lean on a carbed bike may cause damage if you are too lean.
I noticed performance gains - but I also had freer flowing aftermarket pipes.
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I took my snorkel and cut a hole in the bottom of my filter/box and not my bike has cut out in the rain (2 of 3 times). Any Ideas on how to correct this? Bike never cut out in the rai before the mod was done.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Plug the hole. Mine cuts out when I ride in the rain without my waterproof socks over the (completely exposed) K&N filters. Too bad you couldn't fit an Outerwear cover on the inside of the stock filter.
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Some have put a fine screen in the hole...would that help ??
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Yea I have been looking for the water resistant sock with no real luck.
Don't know if a screen would work.
I think I'm going to try a new filter and leave the one end closed and see if that helps.
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I have a K&N if you want it
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give it to mikemm03 I already ordered a uni...tnks
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Try the screen. Might be enough...
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give it to mikemm03 I already ordered a uni...tnks
Good deal, thanks guys,
Mike
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Try the screen. Might be enough...
you think? May try that if the uni won't fix it. I hope to go with a FREAK one day, but wondered if I'd have the same problem now.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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I'm guessing that water is splashing up in the hole and getting through the air filter. The screen could act primarily as a splash guard. Some would still get through, of course. It's worth a shot.
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Ya all are making me stress about pulling my snorkel off. Would love to get the K&N and then fit a bell-mouth over it. The only problem is im not one of those fair weather riders. I ride year round rain or shine so im wondering how much risk just pulling the snorkel with out drilling out the box is?
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Did you look at the date on this thread? Cool to sort of see John again though.
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Did you look at the date on this thread? Cool to sort of see John again though.
That's the first thing I noticed.
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