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When will YOU stand up?
#31358 12/20/2005 1:38 AM
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Rights are no longer granted per say.
We must fight for them. Every day.
Blink and you will wear a helmet.
Blink and you will wear an orange vest.
Blink and you will have a cat can on your bike.
Blink and you will not be able to mod your bike in any way!
Get just a little involved in biker rights and you will
be able to blink with some promise that tomorrow will
be a little better.
Just my 2 cents worth!
6 year ABATE member

Re: When will YOU stand up?
privateer #31359 12/20/2005 12:30 PM
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Also, do a web search for modified motorcycle association. They are very active in preserving your rights.

Here is an online petition for CA residents

http://www.petitiononline.com/SB969CA/petition.html


and a similar one for non-residents.

http://new.petitiononline.com/SB969US/petition.html


Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Greybeard #31360 12/21/2005 9:51 AM
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Great thought. I signed because I truly enjoy the Florida law that allows me to ride sans helmet whenever I would like to. As citizens, we do simply sit back and expect someone else or a PAC to stick up for us and our rights. Many special interest groups have vastly different views from ours and if they are more vocal, laws do change. Power to the People Greybeard!!

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BullBiker #31361 12/21/2005 3:16 PM
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Technically, I can't even roll the bikes out to the street before going on a ride without a lid. I think they should start applying product liability to legislation so the pople can sue the pants off the politicians when they pass some stupid law.


Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Greybeard #31362 01/16/2006 3:27 PM
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you are correct privi as an active member of a back patch club for over 18 years retired now we always have to fight for our right to ride what we feel is like
the problem is we do need some type of safty laws for those who are not aware of how to customize there rides safely
i new a bloke who hard tailed a GPZ500 ninja the front wheel was two inches of the back wheel the thing rode like a crab sidewards
the problem is to many laws but we do need laws for brakes lights and proper engineering not cowboy builders like we get in some back street workshops

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melvin #31363 01/16/2006 3:29 PM
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right to ride what we feel is like
sorry that should have been RIDE WHAT WE FEEL IS RIGHT

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melvin #31364 01/16/2006 3:31 PM
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ABATE IS GOOD
MAG IS GOOD
FEM IS GOOD
STANDING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS IS THE BEST

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Greybeard #31365 01/17/2006 2:17 PM
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Quote:

Technically, I can't even roll the bikes out to the street before going on a ride without a lid. I think they should start applying product liability to legislation so the pople can sue the pants off the politicians when they pass some stupid law.




That would be nice but politicians have exempted themselves, and most others government types, from any liability for their actions. If they were as liable as private citizens making the same decisions they would act with a lot more discretion. (Parole boards come to mind) On the other hand, in our incredibly litigious society do we really need to feed more to the trial lawyers? If you really want a politicians attention get a bunch of people to send him letters or emails demanding the action you want to see and support his opponent if you need to. Threaten his job and you'll get his attention.


We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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ladisney #31366 01/18/2006 2:24 PM
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whats happening out there you guys getting hassles with yer bikes by the police for exhausts or mods done on them
cos you seem to be whinning about laws
if we are all members of rights groups like abate or mag then we can enjoy riding and let the lawyers stop the harrasments

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melvin #31367 01/18/2006 5:25 PM
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Now that my beard is cut a bit shorter, I'm riding a Triumph and I try to avoid certain areas, I don't get as much hassle. But, for a long time it seemed at least once a day I'd get the old " Zo kamerad, led me zee yor bapers" routine.
There used to be a place in Hollywood where 3 or 4 MC clubs used to meet. The local police were so down on motorcycles that one particular cop used to crawl from bike to bike with his flashlight to make sure everyone was parked tight against the kerb. Once, someone stole the car parked just in front of his while he was doing that.


Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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privateer #31368 01/19/2006 2:46 AM
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I joined the AMA shortly after I bought my bike. I will continue to be a member.

I also joined ABATE of PA. They are doing some positive things in Pa. for rider's rights, but I'm having some problems with some of their political agenda. Not to mention their Harley-centric attitude....

I will stand up for biker's rights as I can, but I won't support crooked politicians to achieve it.


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Deon #31369 01/19/2006 2:16 PM
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we had a cop stop us cos we were a group of 20 riding with back patches
he started checking our bikes but he made an error he left his keys on the bike one of out members got a hold of the keys and we just got the nod to ride he was booking a couple of us at the time so as we rode of he went to get his bike but no keys he was left standing
we went down the beach bar threw the keys in the sea everyone claim to have seen nothing

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melvin #31370 01/27/2006 5:38 PM
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I finally went and did it, I just joined the AMA. It is nice that you can do it online.

Soren

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melvin #31371 01/27/2006 11:22 PM
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whats happening out there you guys getting hassles with yer bikes by the police for exhausts or mods done on them




I know that stuff goes on, but I've never run into it in the rural areas of the West. Our UnderSheriff is getting a restored Norton Commando back on the road, one of the deputys has an old HD, a former Border patrolman from north of me rides a tricked out HD bobber and is a member of the Iron Pigs. Long time ago I was working the entrance gate in Canyonlands-Needles Dist. and some kind of patched club came through from a 4-Corners rally. While we were visiting & talking landscape I noticed one was wearing a .45 pistol. Now I'm no tough guy in any sense, but just asked him to remove the clip and store it away, "Makes the other visitors nervous". Always practice the Golden Rule .

JH


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