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Ive been considering the Scott Oiler system for a while. Looking at their site, for the America/Speedmaster they have switched from the MK7 model to their new Scottoiler vSystem for Triumph, America and Speed Master up to 2007. Not sure when the new system came out. Has anyone given the new system a try? It appears to be slightly cheaper than the older MK7 system (based on 2nd party vendors I had bookmarked).

Many people have them on their bike for sure... and I can understand the logic in having one. One the other hand there are some pretty fantastic lubricants for chains these days...

Bel Ray Super Clean Chain Lube,
AMSOIL Chain Lube - MP Heavy Duty Metal Protector, or
PJ1 Blue Label Chain Lube.

These products don't fling or soil the bike, last a long time, don't attract dust, and provide superb protection against wear and rust.

And so I've wondered about the thought behind considering a Scott Oiler over today's manually applied alternatives? Not offering an opinion, just asking.

I think the Scott Oiler would eliminate the need to travel with chain lube, and you probably won't have to lube the chain should the bike get get riden in the wet.

I'll stay with chain lube, too.
H.

As far as normal chain oils or the wax type chain lubes go I would agree with Ian in saying that they make dirt and grime stick to the chain thus accelerating sprocket wear.
I do however use one of the dry teflon type chain lubes, no fling, water repellant and they help keep the chain reasonably free of grime.

I have a Scott oiler and have never regretted installing it. As far as not needing to oil a chain, you can call me old school but if it's the difference between the oiler and the standard can applied lubricants, I'll take the oiler any day.

If I could have an overwhelming majority reporting the futility of oiling the modern x or o ring, then my ears would pri*k up but I'm not being deafened yet with Ian's hypothesis. Keep in mind though, I consider ian's opinion very highly and have asked him many questions.

This being said, I still can't overcome the efficiciency of the oiler and regarding attracting dirt and grime etc, yes to an extent but the oil's vicosity is quite light meaning the chain stays amazingly clean. In other words I don't have to clean the chain. Now and again I may wipe a rag over it just because I can but I'm not left with a gunk more associated from time gone by after using chain spraying lubes.

The main reason I installed mine though was to alleviate my having to lube whilst on a trip but without having a centre Stand to make the task easy.

On the down side is dialing the most accurate distribution of drops per minute according to temp of the area I'm riding in. So leaving a colder climate in winter and dialing say for example 1 drop per 45 seconds as I do, as I ride up into a warmer climate, I will need to dial down due to the oil becoming thinner and with it, the drips per minute becoming more frequent. That's it. So after a while I've got more of a feel with this aspect but even so, the oil is so thin, if the oil does fling off due to an excess, a wipe of the rim takes it completely off.

So for me and where I live, I've found it an excellent tool for my purposes. Sure, maybe the modern chain doesn't require any lubricant but I still have difficulty with that one, leaving the oiler the next best means of chain lubing I know of.

I neglected my first chain by accident since my old bikes used to oil them for me from the crank breather. I really hardly ever gave it a thought until BigBill challenged to see how long it would last if I kept up with the neglect. So I stopped oiling all together at that point in the interest of experimentation. I no longer oil mine at all. My new set hasn't been oiled at all, so we will see what happens. The O or X ring chains have seals to keep the dirt out and lube in but the reverse is also true, those same seals keep the chain lube out.

How do you keep the chain rust free if you don't keep oil/lube on it? Wet weather riding is to be expected where I live, and with bike washings, won't the chain rust?

H.

For what it's worth, I bought a Scott Oiler System with slipperblock, just before my accident (Apr. '07). Zmilin has a real nice setup on his bike (just the Scott Oiler) and it stays very clean. I'm hoping to bribe him to help me set mine up on my "new" 07 TBA.
I don't think many people have the slipperblock, so I'll be curious to see how it performs in helping keep the chain clean.

Thanks for all the feedback, I appreciate it. I've tried both the belray super clear and he pj1 blue label. They both work well but they both seem to collect dust & dirt just as much as any other oil. I think the primary reason I want the Scott Oiler is that once I get it dialed in, I can pretty much forget about it. Checking the oil level every 500 miles or so is a lot easier than dragging out the lift and putting on the oil.

Maybe its that I started out on dirt bikes, and we oiled those chains regularly because of the conditions, but I allways want to really get that chain wet and clean it up a bit when I apply the oil. I then wind up with a nasty rear rim 200 miles later, because I slopped it on too liberally. I've gone back and forth between oil and spray, but the chain just seems cleaner (imo) when I am using the oil and rag method, than the spray method. I like what Staffo says about just running a rag over it occasionally. I really just want a very low maintenance way to keep that chain clean and just a bit wet.

hi Carl, I took a pic today of my chain as it is and without wiping it to clean It or make it look better.

In the pic (sorry I'm on my iPhone and haven't worked out how to post the pic, just the URL), you can see how clean the chain is yet how much oil is on my finger after imprinting it on one section ie (not wiping it along to make it appear the chain is oiled more than it is).

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p276/firie9/81c43a3f.jpg

Anyway, My point is, I think if you can see the pic you'll feel
better about your choice to consider the oiler as a good cost effective option.

Of course it's not a perfect system but one I've found is better than anything else other than possibly Scott oiler's newest electronic version. Too much for me though and maybe going a bit over the top. Not sure on that one. As far as the slipper block. I bought mine before it was around so I can't comment on it either. I will say one further thing though, somtimes the keep it simple stupid (kiss) method can many times be the better.

Good luck Carl and if you want a hand with mounting it or anything else, give us a hoy.

Staffo

The Scott Oiler system is the cats meow. as wonderful as they are, I hear that the vacumn system farts out over time effectivly removing the dialing in ability. At least that is the reports heard. No I don't have one. But for over 130K, I have considered purchasing one. Then the center stand came on line. no. Ya think hotels rooms and greasy spoons would demand a change of heart. That shady alcoves on the brp would stop beckoning for chain lube sessions. That tires and chain kits would last longer...

Hey Moe, I'm noticing a slight change in your behaviour. Have you been partaking in certain substances?

No big deal but more and more I've found I've had no idea what you've been talking about.

Hey, each to their own but I do appreciate your point of view, it's "THE CATS MEOW" but I would prefer to at least get a gist of your ideas.

Had my Scott for about 34k miles now and never looking back! In fact, I'm JUST now ordering my 2nd bottle of oil to refill the reservoir.

"I find a good easy cleaning with a kerosene-dampened rag the best way to inspect and clean the chain and sprockets, but lubing the chain with canned lube has not had to be part of the routine since the Scott Oiler was installed"

ditto from staffo