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Whats with the holes in side? Going to install a sight guage?
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Looking forward to the finished product, John. I like the pic of you in your link...very super-heroesk!
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very cool! 
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Is the patch hammered or rolled?
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Whats with the holes in side? Going to install a sight guage?
Nothing gets by you old man. 
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Is the patch hammered or rolled?
A little bit of both. He has a roller-brake-shear combo unit. He rolled a crown north-south, then used a shrinker to get the sides to curl down, then when that started to make too much of a ridge around the sides, he massaged it with hammer and dolly. All the while he was whining about how he wished he had an english wheel. He's going to tack the back first and hammer weld the final shape as he tacks it down before finish-welding it all around, alternating spots naturally so as to not warp it. Then a new gas filler bung and a little bit of mud the top will be ready for paint. We will be resealing the inside of the tank. To give you some (two) hints on the gas filler...
Okay, so I'm horrible at hinting...
More "hints":
http://picasaweb.google.com/friarjohn/BikeProject2007#
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Hey, does anyone know if I'm getting myself in trouble by eliminating the vent tube from the tunnel to the filler bung? My new filler cap is vented. Planning on welding the tube shut. I know it was discussed previously, just too late and too tired to search for it right now.
P.S. Also filling the emblem holes on the sides of the tank.
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I've ripped out the vent line from the tank and plugged the nipple. No problems if you have a vented gas cap. Makes it so much easier when taking off and putting on the tank.
Following your project with great interest!!!
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You never were a big fan of the plastique chrome console on top of the tank were you  , I'll get the full update next weekend  jh
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I plugged the hole as well when I put on a vented cap. No problems, and yes, tank removal is a breeze.
I remember you talking about a fuel sight gauge a long time ago, that will look awesome!
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You never were a big fan of the plastique chrome console on top of the tank were you
I'm not a fan of that hunk o' plastic either. Wow John, GREAT project ya got going there. Making me want to... no, I'm going to start the hunt for a spare tank.
Btw... was it full of gas vapour before you started? If so, how did you eliminate all them fumes?
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I remember you talking about a fuel sight gauge a long time ago, that will look awesome!
Hopefully. I'm going to curve the tube around the "knee pocket" of the tank. Still debating plain clear tubing (came with the "kit") or picking up some braided clear tubing. Also thinking about ways to incorporate a glass tube, maybe a spiraled glass tube. I dunno, we'll see.
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Btw... was it full of gas vapour before you started? If so, how did you eliminate all them fumes?
I picked this tank up 2-3 years ago. It's had plenty of time to vent and dry out.
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You never were a big fan of the plastique chrome console on top of the tank were you ,
I'll get the full update next weekend
jh
I don't know anybody who IS a fan of the plastic dash. At best people are ambivalent about it. I have a couple other ideas about doing something WITH the dash rather than going through all of this work. Might try it on the current candy orange tank after it's "retired."
I have one of those Veypor units but I'm thinking about scrapping that and going with a couple whiteface mini gauges. I saw a 2" speedometer with trip meter and built-in indicator lights somewhere, maybe Drag Specialties or J&P Cycles. That and a matching tach would be titsonaritz.
And yes, we'll have plenty of time to chat next Saturday. Hmmmm, wonder what that's all about... 
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John,
I am very envious about the Ness grips...I was debating doing with those grips and controls BUT then I cant use my Breakaway.
Its all looking good! How exciting it must be to see it all taking place in front of you.
Keep updating us and posting those pics.
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I don't have the Battastini/Ness grips yet. I'm kinda on the fence about them. There's part of me, since I'm blacking out so much stuff, that just wants to go with a different style of black rubber grip, like these Baxters:  But that's the least of my worries on this project.
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I have been kicking around with going with these...cost some $$$ but should be a direct bolt up
http://www.newbonneville.com/html/dual_mini_gauge_kit.html
That's a bigger setup (the bracket and stock indicator lights) than I want to do. Looks interesting though.
Here's what I want, both 2.4" whiteface: mini speedo mini tach
 
Couple P-clamps and done.
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Looks like you've got a good start on a nice custom. Can't wait to see the finished tank.
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I have been kicking around with going with these...cost some $$$ but should be a direct bolt up
http://www.newbonneville.com/html/dual_mini_gauge_kit.html
I am not sure it is a plug and play...I e-mail Brent, will post his answer
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I have been kicking around with going with these...cost some $$$ but should be a direct bolt up
http://www.newbonneville.com/html/dual_mini_gauge_kit.html
That's a bigger setup (the bracket and stock indicator lights) than I want to do. Looks interesting though.
Here's what I want, both 2.4" whiteface: mini speedo mini tach
Couple P-clamps and done.
Does the stock speedo cable connect to the speedometer or do you need a converter?....I like this better than the one I posted
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Should. The one I linked to is the correct ratio for our bikes.
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I was looking a the new J&P book they sent me..they sell a 12mm to 5/8"-18 adapter #5600250,,,if our cable end is a 12mm
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I have been kicking around with going with these...cost some $$$ but should be a direct bolt up
http://www.newbonneville.com/html/dual_mini_gauge_kit.html
Brent answer:
"No. I have both a Speedmaster and a Bonneville and they are completely different."....so it is not plug and play
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First I would like some more info on the fuel sight have always like the idea and never thought of it in my build.
I want Baxter grips too but my budget didn't allow it. Keep up the good work.
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You can get all the Ness stuff in black.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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I've seen sight gauges on a number of old school, rat, and retro choppers and just thought it would be cool because I'm going for a sort of retro inspired (but not authentic) look. There are a number of "kits" out there, but they all require welding. I didn't like the bungs in some of the kits so I bought this one (came with a clear tube, though):  We're going to weld them in so they stick out about 1/16-1/8" from the tank.
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The sight glass thing is such a COOL idea!! That is gonna be sweet!
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That tank's gonna look awesome when it's finished FriarJohn. If that sight tube is 1/4" i.d. & 3/8" o.d., Lowbrow customs has colored fuel line in several colors. There's also this place: http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/6547
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Those are great sources. I was thinking more along these lines (see what I did there?)... http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/12-0059/  I just don't know if the nylon braiding would obscure the view of the gas too much.
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FWIW...Id suggest clear or a color to offset the paint. The braiding may take too much attention as a "sore thumb" effect vs. a "cool but functional feature".
Oh...and while your at it...might be cool to use the same tubing all the way through the fuel feed to the carbs. A sort of "bring it together" thing.
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I think the braided line looks less retro but more "racery." Yes, I just made that word up.
I'll probably just use the clear line that came with the kit, at least initially.
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That braided line just don't look right IMHO. Just not 'authentic' enough? Go clear so it looks more like glass.
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I want to do it to my new tank but I'm so nerves that I'm not going to like it and mess my new tank up
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You need a friend like Gene. I can't weld or paint for crap, but I haven't invested the time in learning how to. But I can cut, fill, sand and grind like nobody's business...
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i look forward to seeing the finished product!
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