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Why don't UK police forces use Triumph Motorcycles
#358995 10/21/2009 3:44 PM
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Maybe somebody out there can tell me why Triumph motorcycles aren't the Bike of choice for the UK Police forces??
Every month I read about Triumph motorcycles being at the Top of their game in most sectors and yet the Police use BMWs and Hondas...its a disgrace. With the UK national debt running at Hundreds of Billions of Pounds..surely buying British would make sense...especially if the products are what appear to be world beaters.

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Nice to have a uk thread for a change your right its the same with jags in the old days thats what was used.hopefully things will come back to the good old days atb matey


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Why don't you write to your elected officials and ask them why? How does parliament work, anyway?


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Good question, Paul. Asked that one several times myself. Triumph lost the contract to supply British police forces sometime in the mid-sixties (reliability I believe was the excuse given at the time). But now, with Triumph being as reliable as anything else on the road, I can see no reason for them not to switch back.
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How does parliament work? Basically it doesn't (at least not very well). Our government officials, as with most governments around the world, are far more interested in lining their pockets and looking after their buddies than they are in the business of running a country. Hope this answers your question.

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In a corrupt manner, mostly.....when it works !!!

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In a corrupt manner, mostly.....when it works !!!




Which is probably why UK forces dont use Triumphs,the powers that be dont get a cheap car or bike from Triumph like they do from BMW or Honda.
Thats obviously not my opinion or in any way can I condone the above scandelous comment.
Just in case Big Brother is tracing this message.


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The stock answer from Minor Government officials is that all Public procurement is open to tender from any supplier and the procurement team decide based on best value, suitability for the role, reliability etc. However, I don't think we as a country consider the wider costs of not buying from UK manufacturers.
But my point here is that Triumph are well engineered, reliable and cost effective machines.
Perhaps there are Forum members who work for Triumph sales and marketing who can enlighten me or perhaps procurement officials from any of the Police forces. I would love to know the reasoning...Good or Bad..I can take it!! Maybe!!


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Most forces have given up on the Honda's and moved to the BMW's completely, I think.
There was a couple of 'incidents' with the ST1300's becoming unstable at speeds over 80-90mph due to the extra weight of all the 'police equipment' fitted to them. There was one police rider killed and that sparked a panic.....most forces promptly mothballed the Honda's.

There were some great deals at police auctions on ST1300's !!

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What the bloody ... , ..you mean Triumph is makin motorcycles again ?

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Dunno but The Hairy bikers were using Rocket 3 Touring recently for their tour of Britain ...


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If Triumph don't bother to offer up a police special model then they wont sell any i suppose , you cannot just bolt on all the gear they need and ride away they need to be special built


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Dunno but The Hairy bikers were using Rocket 3 Touring recently for their tour of Britain ...




and America and Speedy few years back


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You would think the Thunderbird set up as a police model would be a good fit. Solo, rear trunk, hard bags, etc.


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When Hardly Davidson won the bid to supply bike to the LAPD they basically sold them a stripped down Electra Glide. For instance, if the MC officer wanted footboards they had to supply thier own! I suppose the department paid thier own mechanics to oufit the lights and radios. I thought they would have been happy to get H-D, but most I spoke to at that time were none too happy . . . They were the lowest bidder and you get what you pay for.


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If Triumph don't bother to offer up a police special model then they wont sell any i suppose , you cannot just bolt on all the gear they need and ride away they need to be special built




You hit the nail on the head, Ian. Honda and BMW offer police versions of their bike, Triumph does not. I can see an R-3 T police version or even a tow vehicle. It's an untapped market Triumph should look in to.


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What the bloody ... , ..you mean Triumph is makin motorcycles again ?




Yeah...well guys...MY vote's with Daniel here!

Yep, AND I'll betcha ANYTHING that NOT ONLY those clueless blokes in your parliament don't know "they're makin' Triumphs again", but I'll ALSO bet the farm here that those blokes involved in your government vehicle procurement procedures PROBABLY DON'T EITHER!!!

Yep! I gotta say I think Triumph motorcycles STILL might possibly be the motorcycling world's "best kept secret" sometimes!!!

(...and probably EVEN ON that li'l island o' yours over there WHERE THEY MAKE 'EM!!!!)


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The Sprint would make a perfect cop bike. I though they used to have a Police Sprint in their lineup before.


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Good question, Paul. Asked that one several times myself. Triumph lost the contract to supply British police forces sometime in the mid-sixties (reliability I believe was the excuse given at the time). But now, with Triumph being as reliable as anything else on the road, I can see no reason for them not to switch back.
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How does parliament work? Basically it doesn't (at least not very well). Our government officials, as with most governments around the world, are far more interested in lining their pockets and looking after their buddies than they are in the business of running a country. Hope this answers your question.



Oh,,,,,it works just like our guv does then. We have a lot in common my

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same thing here...BMWs and Hondas everywhere. There are a few depts that still use Harleys.
Blew me away a few weeks ago when I heard sirens only to finally spot a white Honda Goldwing go blasting by with lights-a-blazin, leaning that thing over into a floor board scraping turn on an onramp.


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Paul, you are right they should!

However, being part of the EU the tender has to be open to all member states . The Government buying British simply because it is British is against EU rules . Doesn't stop other member states buying home produced products in preference it seems . As for the bikes performance now there is no question of their quality. A number of world beating bikes that are best in class. A modified Sprint would make a great police bike in my opinion. Though if I was a copper I would want a tripped up America, Thunderbird and Rocket Roadster all with short cannons fitted - no need for sirens then eh!


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Cop pulled up next to me at a red light and shut his HD off. Said he hated the vibration and missed the KZs.

Maybe Triumph needs to lobby the purchasing powers; if they even want to supply them.


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... or perhaps relook at the Trophy models.


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... or perhaps relook at the Trophy models.




Yeah Thanassis, I hear that new Trophy comin' out soon is supposed to be a shaftie. And because most L/E agencies seem to like to order bikes equiped with that lower maintenance feature, then MAYBE after that puppy hits the market, a few more of 'em might consider looking at Triumph and ordering those.


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I'm holding out for a NEW Trophy !!!

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I'm holding out for a NEW Trophy !!!




Wouldn't that be nice!!


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Cool find there, Paul. However, I was kind'a hopin' they would've posted each of their times.

But of course, I doubt that doin' would've really settled anything about which is "the best cop-bike"!


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I was kind'a hopin' they would've posted each of their times.




Me too... woulda found that interesting. Looked like the Harley was scraping there a couple of times 'cause I think it has less clearance then the others. But yeah... would like to know the numbers.


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A couple of them apparently haven't watched the "Ride Like A Pro" video, staring right at the cones instead of looking through the turns.


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