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#358762 10/18/2009 10:14 AM
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well, my America is down and I am losing sleep over it! I backed it out of the shed and she started with choke pulled(cool day) ran until she was warmed up just fine..pushed the choke in and around 10 seconds later she dies..won't restart so I have been trouble shooting for a week now.the bike runs on starter fluid and that's all..I changed the plugs,took the hidden filter out and cleaned it,changed the gas in the tank..all filters are clean..no pinched vent tubes or blocked lines..don't see any vacuum lines or condoms cracked...I'm just stuck..could use some help

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tattooedcouple #358763 10/18/2009 10:22 AM
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Sounds like you'll have to take the carbs apart.


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tattooedcouple #358764 10/18/2009 11:37 AM
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Sounds like either fuel flow problems or clogged jets. Pull a floatbowl, put a jar under it and turn on the fuel petcock to see how well the gas flows. Doing it this way tests the entire delivery system including the secret strainer.
If the fuel flows reasonably well, you will need to clean out the carbs. Otherwise, start with the strainer in the T fitting where the fuel line connects between the carbs and work your way back to the strainer on the petcock.


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tattooedcouple #358765 10/18/2009 11:55 AM
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Scott,I,m gonna shoot for a quick fix. Sounds like gummy carbs. Drain the float bowls. Go pick up a can of Seafoam from the parts store. Add about half of the can to a gallon of fresh gas. See if she will start, if so good. She'll smoke like heck but that's ok. Ride it if possible until she clears up.
Drain everything again, fresh gas. Good luck.


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mikemm03 #358766 10/18/2009 12:43 PM
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Agree with everything already posted. You need to verify there is fuel flowing through the circuit.
1. Pull the fuel line off the petcock and open petcock to see if ok. This will check the screen in the petcock.
2. If ok, open the drains on the bottom of the carb bowls, (one on each) and then turn on the fuel and see of there is flow. If none, try the seafoam mentioned above.
3. Doesn't need to be done in this order.

Note, seafoam doesn't work instantly. Let it work through the system before pulling the carbs apart.

Limit the use of starting fluids (I don't recommend using them). They can ruin your cylinders quickly.


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Gregger #358767 10/18/2009 3:09 PM
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Make sure the gas cap is not plugged........ Try running it with the cap either loose or off.. Good luck. V.

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tattooedcouple #358768 10/23/2009 10:53 AM
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Hey bruh,you get this sorted out?


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mikemm03 #358769 10/24/2009 9:38 PM
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Jeez, I feel sooo lucky...I have'nt had any problems like that with either of our bikes....22,000 and 40,000, still run like new....

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mikemm03 #358770 10/25/2009 8:15 PM
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not sorted out yet...if the bike sits over night it will fire once for about 3 seconds..It's just not getting fuel,,took carbs off(what a pain in the *ss)opened up both bowls..took out jets sprayed clean with carb cleaner.put it all back together ,left out hidden filter for now....still no better..the breather line for the carbs was full of fuel and slime..i took off the end caps with the small holes to let them open up..still no good..now i am drinking heavy..again!!!

p.s. fuel is getting to at least the top of the carbs..sure of that

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tattooedcouple #358771 10/25/2009 8:41 PM
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Once again.
1. Did you open the drain plug from the bottom of each carb bowl to see if fuel flowed freely for several seconds?

Not sure what you mean by "fuel getting to the top of the carbs"?
Also not sure what you mean when you "took off the end caps with the small holes to let them open up"?

Did you add any seafoam to the tank?

Did the bike sit for a period of time before this began to happen?


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Re: Problems...$%$&^$
Gregger #358772 10/25/2009 9:26 PM
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The petcock has a screen on it that you need to remove the petcock from the tank to clean if you don't get fuel from it when opened. Also make sure the hidden filter in the T between the carbs is clean.


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Gregger #358773 10/26/2009 9:18 AM
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Quote:

Once again.
1. Did you open the drain plug from the bottom of each carb bowl to see if fuel flowed freely for several seconds?

Not sure what you mean by "fuel getting to the top of the carbs"?
Also not sure what you mean when you "took off the end caps with the small holes to let them open up"?

Did you add any seafoam to the tank?

Did the bike sit for a period of time before this began to happen?




1)yes I did open the drains at bottom of float bowls..the right side flows slow, the left only a drip or two then stops.I'm trying seafoam for the second time today..I will leave it set for awhile.

2)what I should of said was gas was making to the carbs..

3)On the vent hose coming off the carbs..at the bottom of the hose..bottom of the bike..there was a small cap on that hose with only a small hole in the cap. it was plug and had fuel backed up in the hose,with slime.I took the cap off..left it off.not sure if all years are the same mine is a 06

I road the bike on a 165 mile run..then it set for 11 days before this happened.

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Now take the fuel line off the petcock. It is held on with a spring hose clamp. Open and see how much flows. Should flow freely. Only takes 2 minutes to check.

If it is ok, you need to let the seafoam sit for a while. Where the fuel flows from the inlets ports, through the needle valve into the bowls is plugged somewhere. If the seafoam doesn't work, pull the bowl off the carb with poor flow. Turn on the fuel flow and move the float up and down to see if fuel drains from the needle valve. Note if the needle is moving up and down also. It could be stuck closed. Tapping the carb often helps.

Slight pressure in the fuel tank could help unclog the blockage also or simply blow compressed air in the fuel lines.

You probably picked up a bad batch of gas.


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Gregger #358775 10/26/2009 4:33 PM
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Quote:

You probably picked up a bad batch of gas.



That happened to me this summer, bad fuel from a Hess station that ran fine when I filled up but overnight it turned into something resembling nasty snot in the fuel lines. I blew my lines out and all was well; you're probably going have to take a slightly more aggressive move and pull the carbs (again) and clean every nook and cranny along with the intake tube & T fitting. Don't leave the float valve out of your cleaning, that tiny opening will clog easier than most.


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