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Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Heh, I thought this was going to be about the black hole Chinese scientists created. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566322,00.html And I always thought the Russkies or Ay-rabs were going to destroy the planet...
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 enough of this getting political guys, this is a motorcycle forum....................... 
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Hey, I'm talkin' science here. Science knows no borders, as we may well see when that black hole swallows our planet.
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HEY!!! Doesn't that 1st Phillies/Dodgers NLCS playoff game start in about an hour and a half or so, fellas???   (yep...sorry Dave, but I'm kind'a agreein' with Daniel here, ol' buddy!....and geeeee, I wonder why, HUH?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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(sorry...that's ME doin' a "Red Skelton thing" and laughin' at my own joke there......still!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I wasn't trying to make anything political. I am tired of hearing about inferior Chinese products invading our country however. To make this story a little worse, it said that most of the "infected" homes were in the southeast states, traditionally "right to work" states. Meaning people are paying a premium for houses built by mostly imported labor working on visa (or illegally) using the cheapest BS materials that the good for nothing contractor can get away with using. As a carpenter who takes a lot of pride in his work, I find it sickening. But keep buying Chinese crap everyone, poison your kids, your pets, your homes. And the insurance companies won't help, not that they should for warranty work, but the contractors can just jump town and be off to screw someone else. 
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I know, I know what you're sayin' here Dave, BUT just LIKE what I was tryin' to get across to some folks around here a few days ago, you HAVE to know that these kinds of rants(and sorry ol' buddy, that what I think this thread is here) will very often turn "political" just because this topic not only involves a consumer product, BUT also because it involves the topic of a foreign country and their political stances and how our government does or should conduct business with them.
And so, I think if you re-think this whole thing, you might be able to find a more suitable website for your opinion....of which BTW, I DO somewhat agree with you.
(and now...PLAY BALL!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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sorry, I'm done now
Good! 
And soooo ladies and gentlemen DON'T FORGET that the Angels game against "The Evil Empire"  will START at 5pm PDT sharp tomorrow!!!
(...that's 8pm EDT where that "Evil Empire" resides...BTW)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Dude, I am so frickin tired of this moderator gig I can't even describe it sufficiently.
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When your primary exports are money and jobs, no good can come of it.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Angels vs Dodgers in the World Series sounds good to me!
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Cheaper is rarely better!! We need to cut ties with China, they have been giving us nothing but dangerous crap for years.
I usually make no comments in threads like this but after reading the story and watching the news clips Im in agreement with you Dave...at least on banning product from China.
First the toys that were painted with lead based paints and now drywall that literally rots your house from the inside out. 
I forgot to add...the builder/supplier/whatever needs to be held accountable to this at least in part. Touchy subject here...if they knew or didnt know etc...
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WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE
words and music by Pete Seeger
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the flowers gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
and on and on ....................................
It's all about the music... the music. And baseball for some.
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Less we forget whose buying our paper, this has alot more to do with insurance companies and material suppliers than contractors and labor. China definitly has a quality control problem.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Hey, I'm talkin' science here. Science knows no borders, as we may well see when that black hole swallows our planet.
Is that the same black hole in China that is swallowing our jobs?
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Hey, I'm talkin' science here. Science knows no borders, as we may well see when that black hole swallows our planet.
Seriously guys......I can personally attest...finding anything made here (USA) is virtually impossible. The other day I LOOKED for a USA made paint brush, finally found a Purdy brush...the rest were Hecho in Mexico or stamped China. Our country has a corporate tax rate second only to Japan and don't get me started on worthless regulations..I just had an OSHA inspection today. Looking at my taxation and regulation hurdles, if I could, I would consider moving my business to Mexico or even Canada as their system is now more business friendly than ours , supposidly the land of free enterprise. I love this country but the politicians and bureaucrats are killing us. after all it is not government that hires people it is business and the cost of doing business it getting higher and higher. Dave , I feel your pain and have several friends out of work in the energy (oil) industry because "they" wont let us drill our own oil right here ! There is also a whole valley in California of out of work people (30,000+) because irrigation water was shut off by bureaucrats to protect a minnow and lets not forget our logging industry and finally our dry wall producers. All beat to death by taxes & regulations and those taxes and regulations cost jobs, my friends jobs and maybe eventually mine too. It is time for us to tell the politicians, STOP ..We need to build things in this country not burdon the ones that are the builders !  ....I'm not being partisan I'm being American. viva la revolution' 
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And baseball for some.
Baseball where the pitcher actually has to pick up a bat, like the game was intended to be played. I didn't realize Pete Seegar also played ball, besides penning tunes. He looked like a right fielder. Could have been a shortstop, but the nervous double-clutch forced him to miss too many runners at first.
jh
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Vote with your wallet. Many are fed up, but then we run out and shop on price. We make the biggest and cheapest bigger bolstering their purchasing power and they in turn beat producers to outsource for cheaper production elsewhere. Consequently, the locals go out of business. We are doing it to ourselves. Shop local as much as possible and when you do, pay in cash (transaction fees). You vote multiple times a day-- with your wallet.  Economics, not politics.
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The DH is one of the most obtuse rules that ever came along. At least the NL hasn't caved yet. The infield fly rule, I can understand, it makes the game more competitive, but the DH is for sissies. And it has no place in the World Series either  . Allowed only in AL home games...what a buncha maroons. A freeway series  yeah, that would be great
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Seriously guys......I can personally attest...finding anything made here (USA) is virtually impossible
Japanese cars are made here, not much else. Still can't figure that one out.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Oh boy,  We have to buy Chinese, the unions broke the back of American manufacturing. We can't afford to make stuff here anymore. We produce Japanese cars, Korean cars, some American cars and Motorcycles. Oh, we produce bankers, and telemarketers too.  Just like they don't manufacture in England anymore. Its a global economy, buy from the cheapest labor market you can find with no air or water pollution controls, and no labor laws. National pride in manufacturing is for old romantics. Its all about the bottom line. I have been yelled at with this chant for a while now " Its a global economy! " So whats a little smelly drywall in the big scheme of things. It kept the cost down 
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Top of the 9th comin' up and the Dodgers are down 8-6 after being down 8-4 at the start of the bottom of the 8th.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Touchdown!
Wait, what were we talking about?
Go STEELERS!
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Hey, leave my Phillies out of this.
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...Just like they don't manufacture in England anymore...
er... so have we stopped manufacturing (some of) the Triumph range of motorcycles here now?
As already mentioned, the need to manufacture in low cost countries is driven by us, the consumer demanding lower prices.
By the way, the company i work for has 2 manufacturing plants in China (as well as Germany, Portugal and USA). There is no difecernce in the quality of the product coming from any of these plants.
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There is always a very small conspiracy scepticism in the back of my mind for alot of things. (Let the jokes begin) I was at a security briefing in 2000 at KSC that the speaker (name eludes me) discussed the Chinese agenda. He made it very clear that the Chinese were a centuries old society/culture whos ultimate goal was world conquest. He was adament that the current climate was just slightly dormant for their cause, and they were very patient. In that light, I wonder just how 'accidental' all of the dangerous products from China really is. I saw the UFO in Colorado yesterday, so now I'm waiting for physical evidence of Big Foot and Nessie! later, Tom.
But, what do I know?
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NOPE!!! We WERE talkin' about the Dodgers, WHO just LOST Game-1 to those lousy Phillies...DARN IT!!!!
what kind of outcome did you expect when Kershaw lost location in the 5th with walks and wild pitches, they scored 5 runs on 3 hits. Torre should have pulled him sooner.
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Cheaper is rarely better!! We need to cut ties with China, they have been giving us nothing but dangerous crap for years.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_chinese_drywall 
My brother, a big union guy, always rants about this. He was upset when I used a highlighter on the data plate on his pickup to highlight the words "Assembled in Mexico." We all talk about it. But until a significant percentage of the population is willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, it will not change. Of course, here we are on a site devoted to an English motorcycle.
http://www.madeinusa.org/
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Hmmmmmm....."Are We Ever Going To Learn??"..."Are We Ever Going To Learn??"! Well, offhand I'd say that Dave's choice for a title o' this here thread seems rather "coincidental", "ironic", or....SOMETHIN' like that anyway...don't it fellas???  (oh, and BTW....GO ANGELS!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Oh boy. Here we go.
......Dodgers
Tony G
'03 America
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Oh boy. Here we go.
......Dodgers
YEAH Tony!!! GO DODGERS, TOO!!! 
(the HECK with that carpetbagger down in Texas who still roots for them Phillies, I SAY!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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There is no difecernce in the quality of the product coming from any of these plants.
That's because they operate the plants themselves with their own management-this drywall was bought from a Chinese run plant!
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WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE
words and music by Pete Seeger
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the flowers gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
and on and on ....................................
It's all about the music... the music. And baseball for some.
Okay Keith! I'll grant ya that the topic of music is a heck of a lot better and a MUCH more calming topic than what people should or shouldn't buy that's made in You-know-where, OR maybe even baseball.
HOWEVER, I gotta say that that "wimpy" song you picked to help divert some of "our" attentions just AIN'T cuttin' it here, ol' buddy!!!
And SOOOOOOOO, I got an old song for ya RIGHT HERE that I think might juuuuuust be a little better suited to the occasion here....it was by The Yardbirds, BTW.....
Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
Cars and girls are easy come by in this day and age
laughing joking drinking smoking
till I've spent my wage.
When I was young people spoke of immorality
all the things they said
were wrong are what I want to be.
Over under sideways down.
Hey, backwards forwards square and 'round.
Over under sideways down.
Hey, backwards forwards square and round.
When will it end, when will it end.
Hey! Hey!
I find comment 'bout my looks irrelativity
think I'll go and have some fun 'cos it's all for free
I'm not searching for a reason to enjoy myself
seems it's better done
than argued with somebody else.
Over under sideways down.
Hey, backwards forwards square and round.
Over under sideways down.
Hey, backwards forwards square and round.
When will it end, when will it end.
Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
Over under sideways down
(yep...I sure can size-up the situation pretty well sometimes, can't I?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Oh boy. Here we go.
Well....The Brits were our allies in WWII so, we can buy from them..............BUT THEY DON'T PLAY BASEBALL so.........off with their heads......and football includes an egg shapped ball, helmets and sexy cheerleaders ! & Why are we playing baseball in freezing temperatures....haven't they heard of GLOBAL WARMING Just give me a glass of iced tea with sugar and a slice of lemon !
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