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New ww tire and fender mods
#352521 09/03/2009 11:57 PM
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Well it's not often I can make a contribution in the Tech section. This topic has been covered before but what the heck... I wanna post this anyway.

So... I wanted a white wall tire to replace the stock Bridgestone (thank gawd that thing wore out). Researched what's out there and as many of you know there seems to be only one available, which is the Dunlop K177 120/90-18. This tire is about 1.5" taller and quite a bit fatter. The width is not a problem but the height is and I had to modify the fender mounts.

I made up a bracket which bolts to the original. Have a look at pics below.

Here's the add-on brackets I made. The holes are 1" apart.


The next 4 pics are just different views of the bracket in place.








And finally the new look.


I like the look of a beefier tire and I LOVE the handling. Took 'er out yesterday and snorted through a few mountain roads and the new tire felt great.

Thanks to everyone for helping with the tire and fender mod ideas. Once again, this site rocks.


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Keith #352522 09/04/2009 12:17 AM
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Very clean looking mod. The screw height or lack there of and the acorn nuts are a nice touch. Looks good!


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Keith #352523 09/04/2009 12:23 AM
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Keith...looks good... can you get a shot of it from a bit further out?


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Keith...looks good... can you get a shot of it from a bit further out?




Is this kinda sorta maybe what you had in mind Z?





And another perc to using this tire over the stock... it pretty much sorts out the inaccuracy of the speedo. Almost dead on now!!!


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Keith #352525 09/05/2009 8:51 AM
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Looks great Kieth! I love those white walls. How about a side full bike pic?


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Erwin #352526 09/05/2009 11:31 AM
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Here ya go Irwin!



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Keith #352527 09/05/2009 11:47 AM
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Lookin' good Keith. Nice clean mod, looks like it belongs there.

Now you need to wear out that back tire so you can ww it too


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bigbill #352528 09/05/2009 11:52 AM
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Now you need to wear out that back tire so you can ww it too




My thoughts exactly! And thanks for praising my girl. She just keeps getting prettier!


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Keith #352529 09/06/2009 2:14 AM
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That what I wanted to see...nice job Keith!

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Yep, she's a beaut!


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Yep, she's a beaut!




Well sir... you're a big part of the inspiration, so thanks very much. You should know I found a set of vintage Shoei hardbags exactly like yours. I recently rechromed the rails and will soon see the bags painted cardinal red. Sound familiar? I can hardly wait to get them mounted. And when that back tire wears out a new beautiful ww will take it's place.


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Keith #352532 09/06/2009 5:37 AM
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Looking forward to seeing the finished (yeah, right ) project.

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this is the look I've been after,
saw the pics on friday-
ordered the tyre on saturday-
made the brackets today,
thanks Keith

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Here ya go Erwin!





Very Nice!! Thanks.


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Erwin #352535 09/08/2009 11:48 AM
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I was meaning to do this modification over a year ago, but I rode it without a fender back when I changed the tire and liked it so much that I never went back. Maybe I'll get around to it when I finally decide to get the bike inspected...haha

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Hey Keith,

Since when did you become a techy???

That is a work of art. A techy and an artist (ARETEEST that is) all in one. Imagine that

BTW where did you get the chrome fender trim?


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Gregger #352537 09/09/2009 12:17 AM
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Thanks for the compliments there Greg. Well I'm definitely not a techy but I do know just enough to be dangerous! That chrome fender trim came from a bulk roll at the automotive parts store. It just that door edging stuff for cars. Trimmed things up pretty good, eh?


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Keith #352538 09/09/2009 6:09 PM
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Trimmed things up pretty good, eh?




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Keith #352539 10/03/2009 11:25 AM
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Can we purchase the braket any where or from you...?


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Can we purchase the braket any where or from you...?




Nah, they're not available to buy. Good idea though. I just sort of hacked at the pair I made. You, or someone else will have to make em up but they're easy enough to do if you got some basic tools.


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Keith #352541 10/04/2009 10:44 AM
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Looks great Keith,guess a guy could chrome em if he wanted but theres not much to see and be a bctih to keep clean.

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Looks great Keith,guess a guy could chrome em if he wanted but theres not much to see and be a bctih to keep clean.




Chroming stuff is super expensive. I mean, be seated when getting a quote 'cause it leads to dizziness and some even black out.


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friggin kick arse job!

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friggin kick arse job!



Blast from the past... even the mod is gone as I've returned to stock tire size.


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You need to talk to Zdenko about getting sets of those cut out and powder-coated.


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Now THERE'S an idea!


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I already got like 15 in stock

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Fender bracket extensions? Well why didn't you say so before?


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It was a joke.
I even had Grapeman PM'ing me on "how to pay"..haha

Got me thinking about it now, jease.
Glad theres no patent Kieth!..haha

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We're gonna make a redneck outta Keith yet!

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Looks good the fender seems to fit the tire radius better too


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friggin kick arse job!



Blast from the past... even the mod is gone as I've returned to stock tire size.



Keith,
Why did you choose to go back to the stock tire size? I am right now trying to decide if I want to go to whitewalls front and rear. Have been thinking of this for a while, and since my front failed inspection today, I need to decide asap. If I go whitewall, the front will require the fatty Dunlop K177 120/90-18, and your mod to raise the fender. I am very curious why you went back to the stock size. Handling? Price? just want to know, because I think it looks great!
Thanks,
Carl

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Carl, I LOVE those WWW tires and the only reason I went back to stock was because I bought a set of alloy wheels which had a brand new set of stock tires on them. As my set of WWW Dunlops had worn out I figured I might as well get what I can from the stock tires before I spring for a new set of white walls. It's only temporary madness you understand.


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Keith,
Thank you for the quick reply. I completely understand now, why you went back, and I now feel much more comfortable going forward with that tire size.
Best Regards,
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You are gonna LOVE them! They grip the road well, look awesome and handle superbly. I look forward to running them again just as soon as I wear out this particular set of stock sized tires (which shouldn't take too long)!

PS... please post a picture of those beautiful WWW Dunlops once you get them on your bike!


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Hey all!

Well I spent most of the day yesterday making the brackets. After numerous attempts I finally got a finished product that I'm happy with. I went through a few variations on ways to create it but I finally got it.

For those that are interested in doing this in the future I'm posting a diagram of the final plan for others to use. The material I ended up going with was a sheet of 16 gauge welding steel. I got it at Lowes for $10. The plan below allows for 1 1/4" between center of hole to center of hole. The hole's them selves are drilled out using a 3/8" bit. The program I used put stuff in digits but for those that don't feel like figuring it out, .38" = 3/8" and .5" = 1/2".



And here's the final product:





I mounted the bracket once I was done cutting for a mock fit. This kind of bent the piece to the shape that contoured the fork and fender mount. Since I had a specific bottom now, I then rounded off the corners for a more finished look. Then I painted using flat black engine enamel ($6 at Lowes).

Well... there it is! I'll be ordering my K177 & K555 today for my Caspian Blue America! WOOT! :-D


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That was pretty darn thoughtful of you to make up that drawing then post it here for everyone. Thanks Louis, and welcome to the site!


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