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I am planning to get the freak air box removal kit and I have tried looking thru these old post but have failed to find any pics of this freak installed. I was also wondering if it delivers at least half the power it claims and if so, is there any other things I should be looking for to compliment it? I already have a jet set and the air removal thing (from dealer for them LOUD SCEPTER PIPES?)at carburater 
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The point of the freak kit is that it still looks stock when it's installed. You probably have seen pics of it and not realized it. If you look in the tech vault, there is a more cost effective way to get the same performance increase, it's listed under "ghetto freak". You can order the air filters from newspeedmaster.com or from fasteddysports.com. It should deliver at least half the claimed power! So are you getting the awesome fantastic beautiful Scepter pipes? I'm a big fan of them, love the way they look and sound. Even more so with the big bore!
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and if so, is there any other things I should be looking for to compliment it?
I would suggest a set of Fast Fred's bored carbs and high flow billet intake manifolds for a huge increase in hp and torque. Here is a link to the dyno proof and info... http://www.bonnevilleamerica.com/forums/...ge=0#Post386230
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You seem pretty handy with fabrication Spunebil, and you were looking for a stripped down look so you might wanna consider relocating the battery under the seat and getting rid of the side covers. Then all you'll need are the K&N pods and a couple bolts..haha 
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I agree with Tom (brokenfixed). If I was to go back and do mine again, and someday I will, I would do it like his. I spent almost $900 with pipes, freak, tools, parts etc. And I like the way it looks and runs. But in hindsight it's cheaper and as long as you like that open look it's a great alternative. Carb brace from Brent at newspeedmaster, 2 K&N's and a little modding to make the battery box into a rear mudguard. Tom has pics and drawings posted here too-that I'm sure if you were nice he'd share with you  That's my two cents...trying to save you two cents.
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Hey -- is there a kit to move the battery back under the seat (perpendicular do the line of travel)? I did the ghetto freak (w00t!), but I'd rather ditch the airbox and side panels altogether if possible... just gotta move the battery.
I'm an idiot wrench, so if it's not a kit I can't fab anything.
Suggestions?
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perpendicular to the line of travel is whats pictured above. Do you mean "parallel"? Its really not that hard to mock up since youre reusing the existing battery tray and just bolting 2 brackets to the backside like this...  heres a diagram I drew of the battery bracket and what pieces need to be removed off the stock tray... 
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Sorry, you're right -- that wasn't clear. I would very much like to do what's pictured above, and what I think you just described in the pix above.
So y'all are just moving the existing battery box. Cool. However, looks like you're moving the ignition as well? How's that work?
Also, i know the rear fender doesn't extend all the way down to the swingarm, causing a gap taht would likely throw water from the rear tire straight on to the pods. Does the battery box fix this problem on its own, or are you fabbing up an extension to the fender?
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You seem pretty handy with fabrication Spunebil, and you were looking for a stripped down look so you might wanna consider relocating the battery under the seat and getting rid of the side covers. Then all you'll need are the K&N pods and a couple bolts..haha
I like this, but I would want a tool box to help fill the gap.
I want the cone filters to be seen and deep six the factory crap. But I don't want a big VOID there
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Sorry, you're right -- that wasn't clear. I would very much like to do what's pictured above, and what I think you just described in the pix above.
So y'all are just moving the existing battery box. Cool. However, looks like you're moving the ignition as well? How's that work?
Also, i know the rear fender doesn't extend all the way down to the swingarm, causing a gap taht would likely throw water from the rear tire straight on to the pods. Does the battery box fix this problem on its own, or are you fabbing up an extension to the fender?
--Jaeger
Jaeger, if you look in the pic you'll see I left my ignition in the stock location. The stock battery tray holds the battery and then extends over with a flange on the side to hold the ignition like in the diagram above. I cut that flange off the battery tray so that I could leave the stock ignition configuration, and move the battery bracket. The member "babboon" left his flange on the stock battery tray, so that his key now faces forward. Of course that leaves the little tab on the frame where the ignition used to bolt to. If you go out to your bike and remove the fuse cover and look around a bit, you'll be able to visualize it better. Trust me, I did this to my bike with no instruction, and figured the whole thing out myself without knowing it would even work in the end. I had the bike for 4 months and knew nothing about fixing motorcycles. I just know how to use a saw, a drill, and a ratchet.
Heres another option that member "whotributeband"..(haha)... did, making his own battery tray with a side spot to mount the ignition. Obviously its a bit nicer and harder
About the fender issue. Alot of people are worried about that fender piece, but I can assure you IT IS NOT AN ISSUE. The battery tray hangs down pretty far and catches whatever is thrown up. Which isnt really too much because if you think about the way a tire flings dirt and water, it throws it downward in the position. I have very little dirt/grime on my battery tray, and nothing on my swingarm.
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You seem pretty handy with fabrication Spunebil, and you were looking for a stripped down look so you might wanna consider relocating the battery under the seat and getting rid of the side covers. Then all you'll need are the K&N pods and a couple bolts..haha
I like this, but I would want a tool box to help fill the gap.
I want the cone filters to be seen and deep six the factory crap. But I don't want a big VOID there
Spunebil, I think you might be able to hang the battery like above, but build side panels that extend along the sides of the battery, pinch inward and meet up with the frame downtube between the filters. Which would hide the void and give you a spot for some tools.
I missed not having the stock airbox space for tools so I made up a couple of hidden toolboxes to stash a decent amount of the essentials.
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There are also after market chrome battery boxes that would work, no matter what you do some type of fabrication will be needed as far as I know. I don't think anyone has found a bolt on part to relocate the battery.
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Spunebil, I think you might be able to hang the battery like above, but build side panels that extend along the sides of the battery, pinch inward and meet up with the frame downtube between the filters. Which would hide the void and give you a spot for some tools.
I missed not having the stock airbox space for tools so I made up a couple of hidden toolboxes to stash a decent amount of the essentials.
what is that tube in first pic?
can you take a pic further back so i can get a better idea of its location and how it looks on bike (it almost looks like one of them automatic teller tubes at the bank LOL)
I was looking at the pic of gap with the battery re-located and I wonder if an old fashioned mail box (shortened of course) would fit in there?
that would be a different type of tool box 
heck, it would probably be to wide, but I like the idea 
to save time from going out and checking, what size (id) air filters will i need on a stock carb setup ?
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heres a shot of the spot without the tube, its basically mounted to the 2 tabs that come down between the frame rails.  the tube I bought frome home depot for $5 its maybe 6" long and 2" diameter..heres all the pieces...  I guess a mailbox would work, no comment on the look..haha Some guys have mounted mock oil tanks under the seat that are made to hold battery trays. You can find them on ebay...You just gotta watchout for the chain rubbing on the bottom. The filter part numbers are in the tech vault somewhere. Theres 2 numbers (one for left and right)
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K&N pod filter part numbers: LEFT side RC-2890 and Right Side RC-2900 (from our tech vault as indicated)
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I went out and looked, I wonder what them tabs were for ? there is a bit of room down there too! why is there two different K&N air filters? I would think they would be the same, don't they just clamp onto the carbs? I also was looking at mini speedo's (I removed the stock one) The ones I see in catalog are either 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 ratio. What is the S/M's ratio? I didn't like the huge factory speedo, but if I can run a small 2 1/2"ish one that I can mount out of the way, I will .  I also removed the old springer(I had run it for about two years) and put stock gunslinger style seat back on (I got tired of wraping the springer seat up every night to keep it dry)at least with the stock seat, I can leave it uncovered and dry it off with a towel if it gets wet ( that Le Perra seat would leach water out of the buttons even after being toweled off)  . I also forgot how much lower I sit with the factory seat (about 4" it felt like)  customizing these bikes is a never ending process, but BUKU FUN 
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two filters, one left side, one right side, they are each offset to the outside for clearance
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I went out and looked, I wonder what them tabs were for ?
there is a bit of room down there too!
The bikes sold in california have some kinda carbon canister down underneath there for emissions, that mounts to those tabs and a couple different hoses.
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Just for what it's worth, you can get those pod filters for a lot cheaper at Mikesxs.net. They look the same but not as costly. 54mm is the size your looking for. Go with the pods and lose the freak kit. Relocate your battery, and put all your wires above the battery and zip tie them down. Your seat will hide them. The carb bracket is really easy to make. good luck.
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as others have said, DIY is better in this case. I got a freak kit in trade for some machine work and it took a lot of modification just to make it work. The carb brace was usless and require remachining to be used. Would have been easier to built it from scatch myself. And the freak is very heavy, all steel. I had to do a lot of light weighting. Instructions were pretty weak as well. It does look nice though.
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I like the Freak but as has been said, I was underwhelmed when I got it and wished I had just made it myself. I didn't realize how simple the brackets would be.
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Everyday I give thanks to those brave souls like yourselves that sacrificed large portions of your bank accounts so that younger folks like myself could find a cheaper way.
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Isn't there a company out there that makes a round fake oil tank/battery box for our bikes? Thought I had seen a pic or two on this site.
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Isn't there a company out there that makes a round fake oil tank/battery box for our bikes? Thought I had seen a pic or two on this site.
No. Not specifically for our bikes. But some have adapted generic aftermarket Harley chopper oil tanks.
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