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Dual Headlamps - Wiring
#338238 06/15/2009 7:18 AM
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Got the Shells, The lamps and the bulbs.
EVEN got a guy fabbing up a bracket for me.
now i'm on to wiring - a subject (like most things) i know little about.

anyhoo..
I was chatting to a guy recently and he reckons that if i take apart the plug that normally runs into the back of the bulb i'll find three sets of wires (confirmed) being positive, negative etc (actually there seems to be two wires for each one already..)

he reckons if i run two sets of wires from each flavour and run them into two new plugs that i can just wire up the dual lamps that way - don't need to worry about voltage dropping off or anything exploding...

is that right? can i basically add a fork to each wire and the power will flow accordingly?

inquiring minds want to know..

Re: Dual Headlamps - Wiring
JesterMinute #338239 06/15/2009 8:13 AM
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make sure your headlight relay switch can handle the current. Usually the relay is rated to 25/30 amps. Two headlights may need a bigger relay or a seperate one.
To see if its big enough add up the total wattage of the globes and then divide it by 12 (volts) to give you amps required.ie 100 watt light will draw approx 8 amps.
watts divided by volts = amps. Cheers

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Jurasic #338240 06/15/2009 10:26 AM
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Cheers for the advice matey,

So, mooching on the net, An Osram Silverstar H4 bulb is 60/55w - meaning up to 120 w with both on.

divide by 12 watts gives me 10 approx amps means nothing explodes right?

i'll have to find/check the relay to verify what its limit is.

one would assume other stuff will be going through the same wiring system though, do you know how much impact thats likely to be - anyone fitted the thunderbike kit and noticed a magic do dad that plugs into the wiring?

cheers muchly

Re: Dual Headlamps - Wiring
JesterMinute #338241 06/15/2009 11:21 AM
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First up, pay attention to Jurasic's comment - good info there. The three wires to the light bulb are negative, low beam, and high beam. There's a bunch of ways you can go about wiring up twin lights - depending on a few things. I'm going to assume you want both headlights to have a low beam and a high beam - if you want it the way the sports bikes do it with one light being high beam only, just don't include the low beam wire to the second light.

First up, do you want to be able to easily restore the lights to the standard configuration? If so you'll need a plug that fits into the standard light socket (you can just use 3 male spade connectors just as easily, just make sure you get them in the right wires), with two wires coming from each terminal, each wire going to the matching terminals on two separate light sockets. Use electrolytic grease on all the sockets to waterproof them. (I'm not being very clear here am I? I'll draw up a picture to go with it. Imagine a double-adapter, that's basically what you're making.)



If you're not interested in being able to easily restore the bike to original and know how to solder, cut the original socket off and wire up two new sockets the same way as above except with the joints soldered and covered in heat-shrink tubing. That's the way I'd do it - it's a lot more reliable if you can solder reliably.

You could also use "scotchlocks" to make the connections. These are little plastic clamps that have a slotted blade inside them. You lay your new wire next to the original, place the scotchlock over both wires, and close it with pliers so the slotted blade cuts through the insulation and connects the wires. They're simple to use but they score the conductor, which encourages it to break with vibration. I would strongly discourage anyone use them for pretty much anything.

A few tips -

- Make sure the wire you choose is rated for the current it'll be carrying. GO to an auto parts store and tell them you need wire suitable for a 100 watt light.

- You're probably not going to be able to find a plug that'll match the headlight socket (I doubt such a thing exists) so if you want it restorable you're going to need male spade connectors. These things come in several sizes, make sure you get the right size for the wire you'll be using. Generally they're simply crimped onto the wire which works fine as long as you use a real crimping tool rather than pliers. Auto shops sell them for a few bucks, and often you can get the crimpers along with a few dozen assorted connectors cheap enough. You can also solder these onto the wire if you want but choose one or the other, don't try to do both.

- The connectors come in bare or insulated - use insulated ones.

- If possible use the same coloured wires as the bike has standard. If not, get three different coloured wires. It's easier to make mistakes if they're all the same colour.

- Auto shops also sell black sleeving - get a foot or two of this to put the wires in. It makes it look a lot more professional and will help protect the wires against abrasion.

- Insulate everything. Put dilectric grease on everything.

Re: Dual Headlamps - Wiring
Sandmann #338242 06/15/2009 12:01 PM
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Thanks muchly Jurasic and Sandmann for the advice - i'll let you know how i get on and post up pictures/burns when i get it working - hopefully by the beginning of next week.

and now, a trip to maplins!

seriously though, thanks guys mucho appreciated.

Ant


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