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#291318 09/08/2008 2:07 AM
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I am upgrading to the progresive fork springs.What weight oil should I go to?
I read somewhere that a mix of 10/15 weight is best,why?Why not just use 15 w?


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billpvegas #291319 09/08/2008 5:47 AM
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I just used 15w. it works fine. I have been cautioned not to go heavier than that, as the orifice the oil goes thru is small, and will almost lock up if the oil is too heavy.
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Geoff #291320 09/08/2008 6:16 AM
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My advice would be to just change the springs, ride it for a few weeks and take it from there. If you take your time removing the old springs, so you don't lose too much oil, you can just drop the new ones in, fasten it up then ride.

I suppose a lot depends on your weight and riding style; I'm 12stone (170lb) and the stock oil (8? 10?) is fine. What's good for me may not be for you

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Echoance #291321 09/08/2008 7:26 AM
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I stayed with the original 10W and am well pleased. I'm around 220lbs. and ride a lot in the mountains...
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If you take your time removing the old springs, so you don't lose too much oil, you can just drop the new ones in, fasten it up then ride.




Yes, if you take your time withdrawing the original springs you won't lose even a teaspoon; the added bonus is you can do it on the side stand in 20 minutes and ride immediately. The difference is amazing.


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billpvegas #291322 09/10/2008 1:05 AM
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I changed my springs at the SWTF this year Bill, went with Progressives. Didn't need to add any oil but I'm due to change it so I'm going to straight 15W.
Derek (SalMaglie) did that and he's happy with the results.

The springs take the dive out and firm up the suspension in hard cornering, while still keeping a soft street ride.

Since we don't have any damping adjustment, changing the oil weight is about all we can do to change it. A heavier oil should slow the rebound a bit.


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oldroadie #291323 09/10/2008 1:08 AM
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you can do it on the side stand in 20 minutes and ride immediately.




Mucho better to take most of the weight off the front forks. Sooooo much easier with uncompressed springs.


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bigbill #291324 09/11/2008 1:56 AM
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ok one last question....progressive fork springs....tight wound portion up or down?


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billpvegas #291325 09/11/2008 2:45 AM
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ok for sure the last question..what size socket for the forktube top bolts?


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Spring change
billpvegas #291326 09/11/2008 6:40 AM
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Here's the write-up I did for another forum:

Update: I've done about 200 miles on the new springs, most of them on the B-roads in the Trough Of Bowland, and...

THEY ARE FANTASTIC.

I can't stress enough the difference they made to the handling of the bike and the increased confidence they gave to me. If you ride your bike in any ways like it should be ridden, then these should be your first choice modification. When you pull the brake, the bike no longer makes you headbutt the floor, meaning you can ride faster, more safely. Overall stability is much improved and the ride is slightly firmer, in that you feel more of the road imperfections. I must stress the "slightly", tho. I know it's a cliche but it feels like a new bike.

The following method probably took longer to write than do and possibly makes it appear more complicated than it is. Everything is pretty much straightforward and even without these instructions, it would be easy enough to work out what to do. BTW, I'm not at all mechanically-inclined.

Tools required: 22mm socket. Allen key to remove bars. Bike lift. (Optional but makes it easier) Wire coat hanger to retrieve stock spring. Something to protect your tank. A cloth. Also, it's easier with 2 people: one to do the work, the other to hold the bars out of the way.

Fitting:
Loosen, but don't undo, fork cap securing bolts. (The ones on top of the forks)
Raise bike on lift until front wheel is off ground.
Remove bars from risers. Get helper to sit on seat and hold bars. Also stabilises bike.
Undo one fork cap bolt. Be aware, it's spring-loaded so will pop out with a fair bit of force. Just apply downward pressure when it's near to releasing.
Remove spacer. To remove the washer and old spring, I used the coat hanger. The spring may be covered in oil so allow excess to drain back into tube. Avoid losing too much oil.
Make a note of where the tighter coils are on the new spring (up or down) then drop it in.
Refit washer, spacer and cap. Note: this is where the bike lift makes the job easier; with weight off the forks, the top of the spacer is level with the top of the fork and tightening the cap is easier. Without the lift, downward pressure is needed to compress the spring to enable the cap to be fitted.
Repeat for other fork, ensuring tight coils are in same position as other side.
Lower bike. Tighten fork caps properly. Refit bars. Thank helper. Go for a ride.
NOTE: the new forks are dry and will possibly make a grinding noise when they're first compressed. This passes as they get covered in the fork oil.
NOTE, 2: the above only deals with changing the springs, not the oil. I thought I'd see how I fared with stock oil and it seems fine for me (12stone). A bigger person may need heavier oil.

Hope I've persuaded you to do this modification; it's well worth it.

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billpvegas #291327 09/11/2008 11:48 PM
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ok one last question....progressive fork springs....tight wound portion up or down?




Tight end up.


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