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#22185 09/14/2005 5:21 PM
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I just installed a Scottoiler and was wondering what setting,number wise, other people were using. I'm at the 9 position and it's only putting out a drop/min. I've checked the tubing and routing and everything seems ok. It doesn't seem to have the adjustment range I was expecting however it's alot easier than lubing the chain with spray.

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I've been using mine for about a year and a half and I like it. 9 sounds kind of high, I had mine on 5 and I was getting a lot of sling on my saddlebags and the back of my bike. It's on 3-4 right now and that seems to be just right for me. I'm using the 'blue' oil that came with it. I probably could have switched to 'red' over the summer since it was pretty hot down here but the 'blue' was working out just fine.

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Thanks for the info E Y,I guess I'll have to look at the way I've mounted it. What you have is more in line with what I was expecting. Did you connect your vacuum line to the port nearest to the engine or carb.

thanks KT

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I've been using the Scottoiler on my last 4 bikes, 3 SM's and now a T 100. I have always hooked up the vacuum line to the port on the manifold, although I do not think it matters. All of my final set ups as far as position numbers have been different. The first worked best around 7, the second at 5, the third at 3 and now for some reason the one on the T 100 flows best at about 1 to 1 1/4. I did mount all of the SM's bottles on the chain guard and have mounted the T 100 bottle on the frame just behind the left side cover which makes it higher than the SM installation. I do not know if the height difference makes any difference, but it seems to. I have also been using the Dual injector on the last two bikes and that may have an effect on the flow volume. I do know I would not be without one, simple, fool proof and I think very efficent, and not nearly as troublesome as chain lubing and constantly cleaning the chain. I have adjusted my chain one time on the T 100 and that at 6,000 miles.

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kt1 #22189 09/14/2005 7:35 PM
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I connected the vacuum port to the nearest one on the carbs. The carb ports don't get as hot as the manifold ones and I didn't want the heat to deform the rubber mounting port because I've had a vacuum port cap on the manifold shrink up on me. I've got mine mounted using one of the chain guard bolt holes so it sits right behind the right peg hanger. The installation guide says that you should mount it as high as you can since it's a gravity feed system but I couldn't find anywhere else that worked well for me. I'll try to post some pics later.

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larryshep #22190 09/15/2005 9:49 AM
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Larryshep,
I have it mounted behind the pass. footpeg support, there's not a whole lot of room but maybe I'll try and move it higher if I can.

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Personally I've never seen the need to sling so much oil on chain, bike, saddlebags and roads. What's so hard about using a spray? Sure is a lot cleaner for all involved.


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When they get them dialed in they are sweet. Spraying lube on the chain is easy enough, if you are at home. On the road it is a major PITA. I have been considering one for three years now!


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bigsteve #22193 09/15/2005 10:58 AM
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Your view is fairly typical of someone who has not used an oiler. Properly set up the do not sling oil all over the tire etc. I find I can clean up all of the small spots after a 200 mile ride in about 30 seconds. Quite a bit easier than lubing every 500 miles or so, not to mention the endless cleaning. And as Moe mentioned they are great on long trips.

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Actually the oiler only puts a small amount on the chain. So far I've found it much easier to deal with than spraying lube on the chain that being my main reason for using one. It's like most things you have to play with it a little to get it dialed in.
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I've used the scottoiler in the past,had it set where I didn't get too much sling. None the less they still are dirtier than good ole spray on wax. I don't find cleaning the chain is that big a deal. I clean mine about every 500 miles during a routine wash and spray more wax. No problems yet. The oiler worked fine but I just prefer using the wax.

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Had a Scottoiler for the last 6 years on 3 different machines. That would be my recommended first addition to any chain drive streetbike. Dialed in on 9 and getting a drop a minute? Sounds like you may either have a kinked line, or maybe not hooked in to a vacuum port. The first time I installed one (on a Trident), I was getting less than a drop a minute and thought the system didn't work. With research, I had not gotten a vacuum port so the valve in the reservoir never opened. Mine is tapped into the carb port just above the TPS on the right carb. At the lowest setting, the oiler is doing very well. The reservoir is mounted to the frame behind the passenger peg holder, and the tube is on the bottom of the swingarm just in front of the sprocket. If you take the vacuum line off and... don't laugh... suck on it, it doesn't take much vacuum to open the valve (and make sure it's the vacuum valve, not the delivery line), oil should flow. If it doesn't, go through the Scottoiler troubleshoot list. If oil flows, you know there's nothing wrong with the system.

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JJ,
Thanks for the info, I'll check the vacuum line again,it is very small in diameter. I can put a hand vacuum pump on it and check the flow rate. With the information I've received at least I know where about the setting should be.

Thanks KT1

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Set mine between 3 and 4 during summer, around 5 or 6 in winter. I don't know how many drops per minute...I just look at the chain to be sure it is getting oiled. Sometimes when I have to change the setting, like going into winter, I'll find one or two oil "spots" on the right saddlebag, so then I just back off a little on the setting.
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I hate to bring this thread back to life...but I think it's probably better than starting a new one.

I aquired a ScottOiler from Pat and haven't installed it yet...d@mn lazy of me.

Does anyone have pictures of their setup on a SM?

I was thinking to mount the oiler right behind the right side cover on the frame (somehow) and plug the vacuum line into the port where the AI was plugged into.


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bradleyd #22200 01/13/2006 7:03 PM
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I thought about doing that at first but couldn't come up with a good way to mount it in the sidecover. I've got a pic or two on my home PC so I'll see if I can upload them tonight (or maybe take some new ones). I used the forwardmost mounting screw for the chain guard and bent a short length of copper pipe strap with holes in it (found in the plumbing section of your local hardware store) into an L shape to hold it upright. I ran the tube along the bottom of the swingarm and the tip is touching the 6 o'clock position on the sprocket.

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Thanks...if you get the chance, a pic would be great.

And, is that 6 am or 6 pm?


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I put a couple of photos of the scottoiler on my bike in the photo section.

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Used a Scottoiler for several years. Found that at first it didn't work well because I'd plugged it into a non-vacuum line. Once it gets going, using thin (winter weight) oil in the summer may cause extra sling-off. The thicker summer oil works well above about 50f. At a prolonged idle (like during maintenance) watch for drips on the floor.
My reservoir is attached to the frame tube behind the right passenger peg mount with zip ties. The reservoir fill/vent pokes out just high enough that I don't have to take the peg hanger off to service it. The vacuum and vent tubes run under the saddle and the vaccum continues under the tank to the r/carb top. I've run the drip line along the swing arm rotating it to the bottom of the swingarm so the drip comes out just above the lower chain run in front of the rear sprocket.
20k+ on the chain and it looks great... well, oily, but great!
If you run out of oil, use gear oil. I tried 30wt and it came out so fast it was puddling on my rim!

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And, is that 6 am or 6 pm?




I wonder if it has been adjusted for daylight saving as well?

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I have put mine behind the right side cover. I will get a pic today and get it posted. Nice and clean, have to really look to see it there.


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Picture worth a thousand words. Excuse dirt, she had a suds today. Oiler works great, set up it drops oil nicely with no fling, and can be refilled easily with the help of a 50mm syringe and a length of outlet tube (miles too long when you get it so there's heaps to spare).

And with the cover off


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Well I finally got the pic. Don't excuse the dirt on this one, its cleaning time!!



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This is a prime example of how outstanding this site is. You guys are the best.


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I wonder if it has been adjusted for daylight saving as well?




Actually Shaun, I put my nozzle at about 6:06pm, and make sure my rear sprocket is always in Indiana, so I don't have to move the nozzle back and forth when we go from DST to Standard times. Geez, it was tough to figure out, but saves a LOT of labor each year!

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