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2006 Models (no new cruiser)
#22077 09/13/2005 11:32 AM
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September 13th, 2005


THREE NEW TRIUMPHS FOR 2006


Ending months of speculation Triumph will unveil three exciting new models in Phoenix, Arizona this weekend (September 18th) during the company’s annual North American dealer conference.


The Rocket III Classic

While the original model has won the hearts of the power-cruiser crowd the Rocket III Classic is aimed squarely at those who favour a more relaxed approach to riding.


Firmly focused on rider and pillion comfort, the Rocket III Classic comes with rider footboards, pull-back bars and a comfy stitched touring seat as standard. All subtle but significant touches that add to the bike’s already impressive long haul abilities.


The Rocket III Classic shares the same incredibly flexible engine and composed chassis as the Rocket III, so effortless riding whether two-up, fully-loaded with luggage, or solo comes guaranteed.


Two luxurious, two-tone paint schemes, pinstriped by hand; a deep-chromed cam cover that contrasts handsomely with the black-finished engine and cone silencer end finishers add the final touches to what is already a distinctive and uniquely styled machine.


The Scrambler

The twin-cylinder Scrambler adds a new twist to the Modern Classics range. A fresh take on Triumph’s past, the Scrambler is a redefinition of the bikes made famous by 50’s thrill-seekers such as Steve McQueen into a contemporary urban context.


A ‘do anything, go anywhere’ kind of bike, inspired in part by the relaxed culture of sunny California and in part by the stylishness of southern European scooter aficionados, the Scrambler has been specifically developed for a particular group of riders currently underserved in the market.


While diverse in their demographics and riding experience these riders share the view that motorcycling is great fun, socially acceptable and a liberating experience. Crucially though, they aren’t interested in riding fast and are not motivated by performance or other benchmark figures. As a result these riders desire a bike that’s easy and unintimidating to ride, with or without a passenger, in the rough and smooth parts of town or out and about on a longer jaunt. Added to this is a wish for the bike’s design to make a distinctive, personal statement that appeals to and is understood by both their biking and non-biking peers. Enter the Scrambler.


Very few motorcycles can claim to be unique but the Scrambler, thanks to authentic styling cues such as the flat seat, small headlight, knobby tyres and upswept pipes, is certainly one of them. Only Triumph, with the brand’s strength and sense of its own history, could credibly produce such a machine, creating a whole new niche of motorcycle in the process.


The Daytona 675 Triple

One of the most eagerly awaited bikes of 2006, the triple-cylinder Daytona 675 Triple in one single stroke redefines just how a middleweight sports bike should perform, packing as it does a large amount of power and torque into a small, nimble package.


The first three-cylinder middleweight, the Daytona 675 stands apart immediately with its inimitable, spine-tingling sound and feel. Integral to this is the triple’s inherent advantage of masses of bottom-end torque, linked to a heavy mid-range punch that’s topped with a searing burst of peak power.


The strong, torquey three-cylinder, 12-valve unit is extremely compact and narrow, contributing to the overall slimness of the bike, and features a stacked, close ratio, six-speed gearbox, Keihin closed-loop fuel-injection system and a free-flowing exhaust with an underseat silencer.


Designed around the Daytona 675’s engine the spars of the fabricated, open-back, aluminium cast frame wrap over the top of the motor, accentuating further the benefits of the narrow three-cylinder design. The USD front forks and piggy-back rear are fully adjustable for spring preload and rebound and compression damping. The front brakes use a radial master cylinder as well as twin radial four-piston calipers, while the new wheels are a lightweight five-spoke design.


With the Daytona 675 Triumph aimed to create an exciting bike that owners will never tire of owning and, above all else, riding. It sits within a class of one, delivering an incredible performance with its exciting, powerful engine and intuitive, razor-sharp chassis. It also looks and sounds like nothing else. All quite deliberate and driven by a single, solitary word that underpinned the whole concept; ‘incomparable’.


Not many motorcycles are genuinely mould-breaking but the Daytona 675 Triple is definitely one of them.

No pictures, pricing or specifications were included.





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Thanks Gregzilla,

Now we know! Seems that the national distributor in Greece was right when he told me back in March that the larger Bonneville cruiser model was slated for 2007 (I posted this info at the time).

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wow that sux

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Ditto SUX

some b!tch $&@%#*&!@.

I was hoping and ready to put a deposit down. crap!


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Interesting that the Rocket - which is still relatively new - is undergoing a revamp. To my thinking, the only thing this is likely to do is spread the same amount of sales over two variants - 100 Rocket IIIs becomes fifty Rocket IIIs and fifty Rocket Cruisers. Strategically, the company is still not addressing that mid-market 1600 range; offering the Rocket Cruiser doesn't encourage me to buy one as I still want something less big and powerful.

Still, there must be some thinking behind it - I'm just not sure how they work out that a "Cruiserfied" version will increase sales.

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Still, there must be some thinking behind it - I'm just not sure how they work out that a "Cruiserfied" version will increase sales.




The only way that it can is if they come out with a complete touring package for it (bags, fairing, stereo..etc) to compete with the HD Ultra classic. If they don't they are missing the boat and the reason a lot of cruiser touring riders ar buying the big HD's instead of the Rocket III.

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OK, guess that means that I will just have to keep spending money on my Speedmaster.

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whoever is making decisions there or a retard. is it really that hard to design a 1000-1500cc twin?

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I don't think the problem is the design of the engine - it's probably more to do with trying not to launch too many different models at once.

Triumph have said they guarantee three (or was it two?) new bikes every year for the next 10 years.
'New' could mean re-vamped too I suppose.

Anyway - Americas and Speedmasters are selling well enough so I suppose they feel happy with the smaller end of the cruiser market and they (currently) have the daddy with the Rocket so they are obviously concentrating their efforts elsewhere.

I brought this subject up last year and I think it's going to come - we'll just have to wait.

As I said, the engine shouldn't be holding Triumph up, they originally went for 1500/1800cc for the Rocket until they heard Honda were developing 2000cc.
So I'd say the engine is already there.

With the scrambler, 675 and lazy Rocket, that's it for a while.
We've just gotta wait for the 1500/1800cc cruiser, the Trophy replacement (a monster tourer with 1500/1800cc?) and the 1050cc Tiger to come out ...

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Still, there must be some thinking behind it - I'm just not sure how they work out that a "Cruiserfied" version will increase sales.




Siggy,

My take is that they tested the ground over the last 18 months (or whatever) with the power cruiser/roadster version and are now appealling to the US market cruiser/touring market. I actually think that they will be successful as this competes head-on with the HD cruiser/tourer market, which is massive in the US, offering a non-Japanaese alternative (with a heritage).

A pretty similar strategy to the Bonneville Standard and and the America/Speedmaster derivatives albeit with even less mechanical and frame differences.


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whoever is making decisions there or a retard. is it really that hard to design a 1000-1500cc twin?




Frank,

I think that one is still on the cards for 2007, a little more patience (I can't wait either, even if it is water-cooled).


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wonder if the 675 will be allowed to race in the 600 class?
hopeing thats why they went down the three cylinder route, if the chassis is anything like the 650 then it'll be a cracker!
I also recon that the reason there is no new large middle weight cruiser is to keep the sales of the current new engine'd ones ticking over for at least another year. Don't be too downhearted guys its keeps the residual values from dropping like stones!


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honestly there was no need for the 675 and the scrambler is less important then a middleweight cruiser.

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When I was at the factory early this year They seamed to make a big thing out of the great escape film....the scrambler would tie in with that nicely.

I can see them selling loads on the nostalga front, especally with any given sunday being shown a lot over here on TV


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The scrambler kind of reminds me of my '71 Blue and white Trophy. It was too heavy for real off road adventures, just like the Tiger probably is. But the "new" Rocket III to me is just a way of raising the price closer to 20 grand, where the Harley's play. And the Daytona 670 or whatever. Isn't that just another bored out Daytona 600 like last years Daytona? Someone here stated it correctly. Triumph is just playing around with existing models and engines to expand the model line and bottom line. Ford,GM and Chrysler do it all the time. Maybe 2007 will be the year for the new (really new) cruiser.


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the daytona 675 is a tripple
the 650 was an inline four, im hopeing it is so that they can get back into racing


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whoever is making decisions there or a retard.
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Frank, don't much care for the use of the term "retard". It is the same as using "nigger", "raghead" "beaner" "wop" or any other derogatory terms to describe people. As a social worker who has directly worked with people with disabilites for over 15 years, I find that many of my clients are more ambitious, courteous and have more common sense then the some of the so called normal people I deal with. I'm not having a rage attack or anything just a pet peeve I have.


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i apologize thatw as wrong of me. i really am sorry. dingaling may have been better? lol i metn they make bad decisions and somehtign this simple should of been easy. sorry and no hard feelings

Frank

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I always love reading these "tone prose" descriptions of products. Reminds me of Seinfeld episodes, where Elaine has to write product copy for the "J. Peterman" catalog.

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There is actually anew cruiser launched on your side of the pond, there is a new Rocket 111 "Classic". Same frame ,engine but two tone paint, stiched Saddle, footboards all standard. This is all we have to look forward to,,,,, for now that is cos the mini rocket was never due this year ... always on the cards for 2007 ( late 2006 launch)


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Yeah, it would'a been nice to see what that bigger Bonnie would look like this year, BUT actually I'm kind of impressed that a relatively small operation like Triumph HAS premiered a totally new model, the 675 Triple , AND expanded on two other established models.

I REALLY like the Bonnie Scrambler. It reminds me of the Trophy models, the BSA Firebird and Honda CL models of the late '60s(of which I had and liked) that where so popular back then.

Yeah...they're not exactly "dirt bikes", BUT they were, if you think about it, the granddaddies of the modern Tigers, the BMW GS's and many other Dual-Sport bikes out today. Basically a street bike capable of freeway flying AND fire-road exploration, and were much lighter and far less bulky than the water-cooled modern versions are today.

I'll give Triumph another year to bring out the "Super Bonnie". Besides....I still have reservations about a water-cooled twin looking as good as our BAs and Speedies.

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The only way that it can is if they come out with a complete touring package for it (bags, fairing, stereo..etc) to compete with the HD Ultra classic




Don't forget the Goldwings, Although I personally don't care too much for the Rocket I do believe they should offer it in a full dresser version.


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I REALLY like the Bonnie Scrambler. It reminds me of the Trophy models, the BSA Firebird and Honda CL models of the late '60s(of which I had and liked) that where so popular back then.




Hey Dwight, You are so right, It reminds me of the Honda CL's also! but I was wondering if you knew if the Honda CL was sort of a knock off of an existing Brit bike or a stand alone? ( to save me the research) either way the Honda was a rock solid bike. Take care. Tmax


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As much as many of us are dissapointed hoping for a bigger engine, the Scrambler happens to be a good idea. There is a need for a low cost all around town bike. The 790cc Bonnevilles are too high priced and the America and Speedmaster are not really all around town bikes given their steering rake angles.

I kind of like the idea because I would like to have a small easy to scramble (pun intended) bike for quick hops to the supermarket.

I see the pic that piper uploaded. Is that the final product?


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Does this mean no saddle bags on the scrambler?

Here are a couple of more.







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I'm so happy with my TBA, and I dig the Scrambler so much I'd buy that before a mid-sized cruiser. With all the dirt roads here in Montana, a dual-sport bike (even a retro one) that isn't so damned tall (like the BMW GS) could be just the ticket. I've put a few miles on a standard bonneville and I've always thought it was a neat bike.


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2007 is what i heard for the new cruiser.

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Tmax,

If I recall rightly, Honda came out with the CL72(the 250cc Scrambler) in 1965. Then increased the displacement to 305cc(the CL77) in 1966.

But the Brits had large displacement(well, considered large in those days)500cc-650cc high-piped "dual-purpose" factory bikes since at least the mid-1950s or maybe even way before that time. I'm sure someone, especially Greybeard, could correct me on this if I'm too conservative on my dates here.

So I'd have to say that, yes, the Japanese did copy that particular style from the brits, when Honda and the rest started making "large" motorcycles. But you have to remember that in the late fifties to the early sixties, BSA sold more motorcycles than any manufacturer in the world, and Triumph was close behind. In essence, the British Motorcycle Industry was the standard of the world then, and so Mr.Honda had a large target to shot for, and so most "real" motorcycles that Japan Inc made then had a definate "British look" to them.

Now, with H/Ds being so popular, Japan Inc has switched to the V-Twin as their target, and if the street bikes from Japan aren't repli-racers(sportbikes), there most likely American in style or "Harley Clones" now.

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Where's the skid plate? I doubt it will be much cheaper then a standard Bonnie since most of the chasis, engine and parts are the same. I would think a Kawasaki 650 KR or whatever would be a better dirt or adventure bike but then again the Scrambler does look bitchin... Fonzie would definitely approve.


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PES,

I agree. The pricing on the Scrambler will probably be on a par with the standard Bonnie, in fact, it could be a little more. But, I'll bet the Triumph accessory catalog will have that skid plate you asked about, in it.

Regarding the W650: It is a pretty cool rendition of the classic brit-twin, but from what I've read about the bike, when it came out around 5 years ago, it doesn't handle nearly as well and is slightly down of power(of course, giving away about 140cc in displacement) than the new Bonnies.

Ironically, the handling department differences hark back to the days when you just couldn't beat a britbike in that regard, and the Japanese, although maybe making more reliable and more modern engine designs, such as OHC designs (as compared to the dated by late '60s standard brit pushrod OHV), which were oil-tight for the most part due to horizontally split engine cases, instead of the vertical on britbikes of that era, just didn't quite have their frame and suspension components dialed in as well as the brits did. It seems that most of "Japan Incorporated" didn't get that right until well into the '80s.

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Any pictures of the new Rocket III Classic around? The Triumph home page doesn't appear to have one - there isn't even a mention in the "News" section, which is something of a stupid thing to do; not mention your new products!

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I must admit that I do like it, pity I just bought the Speedmaster as I don't think I could get the minister of finance (wife) to agree to another new bike purchase after buying the Speedy a couple of months ago. After all I still have the Katana 1100 sitting at home in the garage as well. But I do like the way the pipes have been done, now those high pipes would look good on the speedy.

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Sigmund,

They won't add it to their site until the 'official' press release.

And for my addition to this, I love the look of the Scrambler. The new Rocket Cruiser, should have been a tourer instead. The new cruiser they haven't really done anything that you can't do yourself right now. Full fairings and tour bags would have been a much better idea in my opinion.


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The Hinckley twin has the potential to go to 1000 cc's, or thereabout, as the American flat track racers have shown. (Think stroker crank, along with bigger bore.)

That should be plenty to haul that lighter-than-Jap. frame down the road in a respectable manner. It should even out perform the 1200 Sportster.

More horsepower is not what's needed, but more, and spread out torque is. All this is do-able within the confines of the current vert. twin engine design and not require a completely new engine attempt.

NOTE: You youngsters will have to learn not to rev the snot out of such an engine, though. <chuckle>


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