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Ok, folks -- what'ya know about a new Triumph Scrambler, based on the T100, coming out in 2006?

See possible pix here: http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69818

--Jaeger

I keep thinking that the rumor of that scrambler can't (or shouldn't) be true. Other than it being a retro style bike, it's a bike that doesn't make sense at all. Owning one would pretty much be a novelty and not practical at all. There is no way that it can compete/perform with modern dirt/enduro bikes. People that are using Triumphs for flat track are already customizing Bonnies to do the trick. Triumph already has the Tiger as a dual sport bike.

I read on some other forum that those pics are actually of Norman Hyde modified bikes.

But, I guess, next weekend, we will find out for sure.

However, I will say that it does look nice and reminds me of a late 60's early 70's enduro bike.

Soren

I saw a test bike go by when I was on a factory tour the other week. Didn't see it up close as I was in the parking lot, but it was very much the same as pictures in the link. Not sure if I would want one though

Nobby

Hiya Soren

I think you're right - it would be a novelty machine.

I don't doubt it would be quite a good machine but I think it will be aimed at the rider who wants a cheap(ish) 2nd, 3rd ... bike to scratch around on that's also a bit different.
I think it looks great and if it comes to light and looks like the ones in the pictures, I'd certainly like one to potter around on in the winter.

It's in the same vain as the Enfield range - they have an 'off-road' bullet.
Someone will like it enough to want to buy one.

I suppose we should welcome any new machine whether or not we can afford one, want one or even if we don't like it because of the good it does the company.

Hey, I know a buddy of mine who's looking to get his first "real" bike (he's on a beater first bike now) and he wants somethign that can actually function in the dirt, but mostly road, but he's wanted a Bonnie... this'll be perfect for him, depending on how it comes out!

--Jaeger

There you go! First one sold already!

As long as they don't get greedy and keep it priced near the Bonneville, I'd consider one as a second bike.

Logically, it needs to be parred down so no fancy double dials, chrome etc - just like the basic Bonnie.
Just over 4 grand over here I believe.

I normally post over on MCUSA, but my take on this is the same as Soren's. While it's an interesting style exercise, I don't see who the intended market is.

I think this is what we've seen in lots of other bikes over the years: A bike that everyone will love ... and nobody will buy.

I think the Japanese and others are already taking notice of this on-off vs off-on. The Suzuki V-Strom is made for 90% street-10% dirt as are other bikes like the Honda Varadero(not imported to the US), Ducati Multistrada, and the Triumph Tiger. Even Buell is trying to get in with the Ulysses. The only one missing from offering a bike of this kind is Kawasaki, but they had one in Europe that used Suzuki's DL100 motor before dropping it. These are all 2wd SUVs of the motorcycle kind.

Hah! Looks liks it wasn't all B.S. -- see the "New Triumph" thread in here.

--Jaeger

SalMaglie,
I wasn't actually thinking of the current on-off offerings but was contemplating a trend similar to that of the supermotards (in terms of niche). Specifically that these scramblers would also be play-bikes but with off-road capabilities (some).
Expect the Honda "Rabbit" Scrambler (using the Dominator 650cc or Transalp 650 twin engine) in 2-3 years.

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The only one missing from offering a bike of this kind is Kawasaki, but they had one in Europe that used Suzuki's DL100 motor before dropping it.

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Unless you've picked up on something, it is currently on the market now (for the last 2 years, perhaps more) - it is called the Kawasaki KLV 1000 and is identical to the Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom (in fact they have a collaboration agreement [Suzuki-Kawasaki] on this model). There are very minor differences (only visible from close up) other than the color schemes (one of which is orange and black).

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These are all 2wd SUVs of the motorcycle kind.

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Good description!

Oh, I see what you mean now.

I thought I'd heard/read Kawasaki had dropped the KLV 1000 for 2006.

FWIW, I read advrider.com a bit and it seems like that crowd would like more bikes like the new BMW HP2. A lightwieght twin with 80 hp, and dirt worthy, but for less than 10 grand. If the Japanese can make 600cc sportbikes with 120hp for that much money, why not adventure bikes?...or so their reasoning goes.

Augh!

Well, there are some pix of the new Triumph models on the triumphrat.net site:

http://www.triumphrat.net/modules.php?se...=view_album.php

HOWEVER... w/r/t this new scrambler, it appears that they're asking $9k for it!

http://www.triumphrat.net/modules.php?se...=view_photo.php

Augh!

Heh, guess that'll have to wait until it's used, hunh?

Yikes.

--Jaeger

The Scrambler makes more sense on dirt and gravel roads that the Tiger does. Triumph isn't touting it as a new enduro. It's no more impractical than the Thruxton...it isn't comnpetitive with any naked bike currently made now is it? I think the Scrambler would be a blast to have rather than the T100 or standard Bonneville.

Whoops, I stand corrected -- looks like the new Scrambler will be something like $8k out of the box -- about what the T100 is. I guess that's about right... (sorry, had to squint at the picture a littel more)

--Jaeger

The Scrambler looks like it could be a fun bike to own but the $8K price tag might keep alot of people away including yours truly. I just wouldn't have that much opportunity to use the off road features. If I lived way out in the country with an abundance of dirt roads then it would be ideal.

Woo hoo! Confirmation. On this and all the new Triumphs:

(also posted on the Lounge room)

http://www.triumph.co.uk/uk/3990.aspx

--Jaeger

The power rating is a bit dissapointing. They should have used the T100 or Thruxton engine instead of the S/M.

I showed my wife pictures of the Scrambler without saying anything about it, just said "What do you think about this one?"

She said "I didn't know Triumph made a dirt bike"

Dang, I love this woman!!!

Neat bike. Reminds me of the worst burn I ever had, off the pipes of a CL350 Honda Scrambler in about 1970 when a guy on a bike picked me up while I was hitch hiking in shorts. OUCH, hurt for weeks and left a scar for months.

Gee, Larry! I'll bet, before that nasty ol' burn, you had really cute legs, huh?

Well....I mean cute enough to have some "GUY on a bike pick you up", at least, huh?

(sorry Bro...couldn't resist THAT one!)

Yeah, I think I still have a few burn scars remaining somewhere from that CL72 Honda Scrambler, I had back in the late '60s, too. But I just can't help liking this new Triumph version. I guess some kids never grow up!

Dwight

Actually the "Guy" was a neighbor kid a few years older than me (I was 15 or 16) But yes, my legs are very cute. So cute in fact that I had them covered with hair to minimize their attractive power I still cringe thinking of my skin sticking to those pipes. If I were looking for an on/off road bike I would likely get that scrambler ahead of the Tiger or the BMW. It's lighter, cheaper, I wouldn't need a 36 inch inseam to ride it and it looks like a Triumph!

Larry,
EXACTLY!

That pretty much puts how I feel about the new Scrambler in the ol' nutshell, TOO! Lighter, shorter, less top-heavy than the modern dualies and WAY COOL retro looks.

Cheers,
Dwight

Let me know how you feel on this one because I am in this situation.
Would you pay 8K for a factory original concours restored 1969 "C" model or the same price for the new Triumph scrambler? I am leaning to the 1969 model.
Mad`

Mad,

As I also own a '70 Bonnie that is "streettracked out"(kind of a dual-purpose thing too), that question is hard to answer. However, if you now own an America or Speedmaster, my impulse is to say, go for the '69. The joys are kind of different and yet the same.

An older Triumph(BTW, I would stick to a '66 thru '70 model, as they seem the most collectable and are the purest examples, in my view, of the breed) if sorted-out well, can be a fairly reliable mount, BUT it's never going to be a long-distance ride, like the newer ones are.

If you don't already own one of the new modern Bonnies, I'd say buy the new Scambler, as it's going to be a bike that you could conceivably go anywhere on, such as the Interstates or even the occassional back-road.

Which ever way you choose, you'll have NO problem enjoying yourself. As you probably know...owning a Triumph is just about the best way you'll EVER find that will get you that...LEGAL high!

Cheers,
Dwight

This is the bike I'm trying to convince my wife I HAVE to have. I keep telling her that I know I already have two Triumphs but I don't have a Scrambler. I am even saying pleeeeeease...

Since the '69 has a proper kick starter and can be fitted with a proper magneto, it would win hands down as far as I'm concerned.