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It seems anytime I'm riding alone I attract every tailgating cager in the state. Anyone have any tips or tactics they have used to enlighten the offenders to BACK OFF!! 
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Keep gradually slowing down, or pull over so they pass.
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I've heard of pennies or bb's too!! I've slowed down and then accelerated also. Pulling over is fine if its the only car, but now the idiot is in MY way. Seems they go slower when they are in front of you.
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Couple of problems with marbles, BBs, and other objects.
They're random. If they hit the intended target, they then fly around and hit others, making you the A-hole.
If they miss, they still fly around, endangering others, and you're still the A-hole.
You could very well P.O. the jerk who's tailgating you. He's already a jerk, he may have a very short fuse and guess what?
He weighs 4,000lbs.
You weigh about 700.
Guess who loses that road rage confrontation.
Best to Zen it.
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Couple of problems with marbles, BBs, and other objects.
They're random. If they hit the intended target, they then fly around and hit others, making you the A-hole.
If they miss, they still fly around, endangering others, and you're still the A-hole.
You could very well P.O. the jerk who's tailgating you. He's already a jerk, he may have a very short fuse and guess what?
He weighs 4,000lbs.
You weigh about 700.
Guess who loses that road rage confrontation.
Best to Zen it.
I agree 100% with Mr Bill here. You are at a clear disadvatage. And you never know just how big a jerk the jerk in the cage is.
Couple things that somtimes work or dont work for me.
If you are stuck in a line of traffic and cant speed up or pass the guy in front of you... weave the bike back and forth in you lane. This makes em think you are nuts and they may back off. at the very leat it makes them see you. Second drop your left hand down and wave them back.
If in city traffic if you get to a stop light put both feet down,stand up look over your shoulder at the SOB and stare at him till the light changes.This will alos make him think you are crazy.
Try to travel at least 10 mph over the speed limit. Most people around here to that. I try to do 10-15 that way if somone comes up on me out of nowhere I know I have a class A jerk. And I do the gradual slow down thing.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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One more thing about ojects. About 2 years ago (Maybe 3) an HA was shot and and later died,On interstate 95 Just outside of New Haven Ct.
He was shot by somone in a green SUV with Fla plates.
There where to theroys.
1. That it was a hit by a rival gang.
2. That it was road rage. A witness said they saw one of the
Angel's group throw a wrench at the SUV jhust before the shooting.
As far as I know the case was never solved.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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Good points, guys. Not that I use marbles, I dont need to as I am usually the one going faster, and nobody has a chance to tailgate me.
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Try to travel at least 10 mph over the speed limit. Most people around here to that. I try to do 10-15 that way if somone comes up on me out of nowhere I know I have a class A jerk. And I do the gradual slow down thing.
Also remember that actual speed is very likely about 10% lower than the speedometer indicates.
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Try to travel at least 10 mph over the speed limit. Most people around here to that. I try to do 10-15 that way if somone comes up on me out of nowhere I know I have a class A jerk. And I do the gradual slow down thing.
Also remember that actual speed is very likely about 10% lower than the speedometer indicates.
I know for a fact my speedo is 5 mph slow when riding over 30 mph.
For a while I was getting every jack hole is Seattle on my rear...then I figured out I was driving under the speed limit.
Its gotten better now with the exception of that guy thats always in a hurry to go nowhere. I let him pass so I can try and stay calm and alert.
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I often turn an look at them (dirty). Most times it works ... Sometimes it doesn't (especially with the ladies ... they think I'm admiring them  )
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Step one: Grow beard. You see, for some reason being facially hirsute often adds to the intimidation factor...our guess is that you look more Cro-Magnon!(of course some of our fairer sexed members around here may find this first step a major challenge...unless perhaps they're of italian descent...then by all means GO FOR IT!!!)
Step two: Turn around on your saddle and give them the meanest and DIRTIEST look you can muster!(bareing your bicuspids and incisors as much as possible through the above mentioned beard also will give you that certain "mad dog" appearance that you're goin' for here)
Step Three: Yell as loudly and as gutturally as you can..."BACK OFF YOU FRIGGIN' MORON!!!"(now, as this website contains a word filter, the word "friggin'" here is used only as a euphemism...out in the real world we suggest that you use an alternate and more EXPLICIT word beginning with the same letter "F", and which we're sure anyone reading these guidelines will know exactly what that particular word REALLY is here!)
(disclaimer: Our tests using the above guidelines during real world conditions have shown a 96.5% success factor in helping those offending parties realize that they were following a motorcyclist much too closely. However, these same test results have also shown that there was a 2.3% likelihood of said trailing motorist will attempt to run over the motorcyclists, AND a 1.8% likelihood that gunplay could ALSO become an issue. Your results may vary)
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I have found that snapping a picture of their license plate with the Cell-Cam (or just going through the motions) at the first available opportunity is enough to make them back way off.
Mallard
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has never tried anything new." - Einstein
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Step 1: Move out of NJ  But seriously folks, I like the camera idea, and the hand motions. There are different scenereos here... the multi lane highway, the around town, the back roads... there are probably different combinations of the above suggestions that would help a lot. I'm also a fan of actually going a little faster than the flow of traffic. Pretty much keeps trouble in front of you. Then move over for the real A holes. Of course, on a back road that's not always possible. My MSF instructor gave some good advice. If you're not ready to get up and run with the big boys in the left late, don't get on the interstate. If you're going too slow for traffic, you're an obstacle.
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Anyone have any tips or tactics they have used to enlighten the offenders to BACK OFF!!
To borrow a phrase from Keith Code, it's a Twist of the Wrist.
Go faster than the surrounding traffic and the one behind you isn't tailgaiting but falling behind. 
Speedy go zoom! 
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The commonly seen problem with tailgaters is that, the faster you go ... the more they stick with you, making it even more hazardous (especially when somewhat enclaved in traffic).
Bedouin.
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I saw something on YouTube where a guy recommended giving the handles bars a little shake if they don't the hint when you tap tail lights. Tailgaters really bug me-I was hit from behind in my car years ago and it took forever to heal. Wish I could just put a .45 round through their windshield although in Texas 6 out of 10 are armed so that first shot better be on target!
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Pretend to pick your nose and eat it, wobble around in the lane, lean over like you are about to throw up, wave your arms around and shout gibberish, and just generally give the impression that you are drunk and crazy. They will be forced to admit to themselves that they can see you and they won't want to be anywhere near you.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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I agree that marbles and BBs end up bouncing all over the road. That's why I've practiced, and nearly perfected, the over-the-shoulder throw of a water balloon filled with vasoline. Bit of a pain in the rear to carry on the bike, but when you need it....it's there!
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Going to New Mexico in August. Wish I could take my Speedy with me. The roads out there are wide open and probably less of a problem with cagers on your azz.
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Going to New Mexico in August. Wish I could take my Speedy with me. The roads out there are wide open and probably less of a problem with cagers on your azz.
Clovis is the 6th largest city in the state. During "rush hour", you might see as many as 6 vehicles backed up at redlights on the main street. For the most part, the local folk just know that everyone on HD's and Brit bikes are homicidal maniacs that carry about 5 each of 44 magnums, 45 ACPs, AK47s or M3 greaseguns and sawed off shotguns, so you get a decent amount of space.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Shortly after moving from Michigan to the Beast Coast, I bought a bumper sticker (www.makestickers.com) to put on the back of my helmet that reads, "Please don't tailgate." However, I had an epiphany. It would probably be counter-productive and become a bulls-eye. I assume that people who tailgate probably can't read too good either.
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...OR...their eyesight isn't what it used to be and they'd pull EVEN CLOSER to try and read what it said on that bumper sticker!!!  (I'd say either way you're pretty screwed there dude!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I'll have to check that site out! I want to get post-it notes made up that say "Your parking sucks" for all those people who park ON the line.
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Post-its and a Sharpie.
Make your own.
Or lipstick. Comes off, but not real easy.
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I'll have to check that site out! I want to get post-it notes made up that say "Your parking sucks" for all those people who park ON the line.
Somtimes spit on a windshield will get your point across.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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When the "flashing the brake lights" trick doesn't work for me, I try this:
While maintaining safety, I turn around (as much as possible) and eyeball the cage driver, and then point at him/her and then give a "stop" hand gesture (nothing offensive).
That tends to work a lot for me.
Or you could have a mattress handy to take care of the tailgating offender...
>>I was in the car pool lane during heavy rush hour traffic. All four lanes were moving though about 75 mph. The car pool lane was not very congested but I had a car in front about 2 seconds and a guy on my rear about a car length back that would not give me space no matter what. Traffic to the right was waaay to thick to merge over and let the nut by so I just gritted my teeth knowing I was not in a good place. Suddenly the car in front of me taps his brakes and swerves over to the right into a small slot and at the same time I see a full sized mattress dead ahead. Stood up and hammered it and the KLR went over pretty easy. I checked my mirror and saw the tail gater spinning out against the divider wall with lots of smoke and stuffing flying around.
<< (storyfrom Face Plant section of advrider.com)
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>>I was in the car pool lane during heavy rush hour traffic. All four lanes were moving though about 75 mph. The car pool lane was not very congested but I had a car in front about 2 seconds and a guy on my rear about a car length back that would not give me space no matter what. Traffic to the right was waaay to thick to merge over and let the nut by so I just gritted my teeth knowing I was not in a good place. Suddenly the car in front of me taps his brakes and swerves over to the right into a small slot and at the same time I see a full sized mattress dead ahead. Stood up and hammered it and the KLR went over pretty easy. I checked my mirror and saw the tail gater spinning out against the divider wall with lots of smoke and stuffing flying around.
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 thats my new favorite story hahahaha
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One of Harley old timers I know once told me he keeps a couple large clear marbles in his left pocket and perfected his aim for the windshield, surreptitiously pitching them back over his left shoulder. If it breaks the windshield (probably unlikely in this day and age of laminated safety glass) the marble would also break, effectively hiding the evidence. Nice in theory, but...
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OH! You mean One-Eyed Pete???!!! Yeah John! I know that guy TOO!  (but I'm NOT so sure it was marbles he was tossin' back at those tailgaters, dude!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Post-its and a Sharpie.
Make your own.
Or lipstick. Comes off, but not real easy.
I have actually done that... I just think something pre-packaged would be a nice little side business
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Didn't someone at GA08 run over a mattress? No, I'm sorry, it was a truck bedliner! I think it was Glazer?!
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>>I was in the car pool lane during heavy rush hour traffic. All four lanes were moving though about 75 mph. The car pool lane was not very congested but I had a car in front about 2 seconds and a guy on my rear about a car length back that would not give me space no matter what. Traffic to the right was waaay to thick to merge over and let the nut by so I just gritted my teeth knowing I was not in a good place. Suddenly the car in front of me taps his brakes and swerves over to the right into a small slot and at the same time I see a full sized mattress dead ahead. Stood up and hammered it and the KLR went over pretty easy. I checked my mirror and saw the tail gater spinning out against the divider wall with lots of smoke and stuffing flying around.
<< (storyfrom Face Plant section of advrider.com)
thats my new favorite story hahahaha
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Shortly after moving from Michigan to the Beast Coast, I bought a bumper sticker (www.makestickers.com) to put on the back of my helmet that reads, "Please don't tailgate." However, I had an epiphany. It would probably be counter-productive and become a bulls-eye. I assume that people who tailgate probably can't read too good either.
I see you are new to the site, Are you also New to Ct,
What part are you in?
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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the best result I have is to lower my left hand to a 7 or 8 o'clock position with my palm out towards the tailgater. it seams to be a none threating nonverble q and seams to work more often than not Good luck with that Scott
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Copenhagen long cut takes care of em.
Blowing gravel off rural roads
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Nevada is an open carry handgun state. I pack a Taurus 1911 .45 ACP in a custom tan holster. This is prominently displayed on my right hip for all cagers to see. I also carry two magazine pouches on the left side of the belt near my left kidney. This display of hardware sometimes invites remarks etc. but I have no problem with tailgating cagers once they get close enuf to see the heater.
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I pack a Taurus 1911 .45 ACP in a custom tan holster.
Is this a custom made-for-bike holster?
I was wondering if it would protect your hip and kidney from that nice hard steel in a crash.
I seems most holsters are designed to protect the weapon, not the wearer.
Carrying on a bike would have protection problems you don't have elsewhere.
Just wondering.
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Actually a fella in Boulder City puts these together. He used 14 Tan Cowhide and produces a really outstanding holster.  It is finished inside and out and is lined with suede leather so the finish of the weapon is protected. It has an outside long leather strap that keep the gun in place yet can be easily opened when needed. It is quite comfortable for daily wear and I hardly feel it now. There is nothing better than knowing you are armed and with that weapon I feel very confident and assured by the weight of that 42 oz of steel on my hip.   Of course mounted on a Triumph Speedy I know I can go where I want and when I want with comfort and confidence  as I am riding the best.
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My wife has a bright yellow t shirt that says in bold black lettering " IF YOUR GOING TO RIDE MY A** AT LEAST PULL MY HAIR"
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