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Received my last home heating oil delivery of the season yesterday.I always fill the tank in the spring so I wont have to deal with the annual fall price increase until Dec. May have been a mistake this year. $4.35 a gallon. Took 175 gallons (you do the math I dont want to). Guess I know now where that tax rebate check is going. Thats about the same price as deisel around here,I'm gonna do some research and find out just how much of that 4.35 is state taxes. 
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Your heating oil should be free of road use taxes. If they charged you taxes you should be able to get the money back.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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The oil companies tell us they need to drill in refuge areas and off shore, but the goverment wont let them. Anytime something happens in the world; storms, political unrest, and China stuff the price goes up. Big Oil fails to tell us they control 25% of the known oil and there are only five BIG OIL companies, so they really don't care what we think.....unless we convince the goverment to do something. But since when can government fix anything? 
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Well my friend I dont call CT the "Tax Me State" for nothing. My first call was to my oil company. Nice young lady on the phone could not give me an answer. I'm sure she honestly did not know just scheduals deliveries and such. But promised find out and give a call back. My next call will be to the Governers office.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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Jack,
I had twin 250's in my home in Wolcott can not imagine do not want to know what it would cost to fill thoses puppies up a $4.25 COD.
83 here today in Atl mid 80's for the weekend. Give up being a CT. Millionaire and move to GA. Plenty of machine shop jobs down here.
John
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Man I wish I could get diesel for the boat at 4.35, its $5.25 at the marina's down here in Fairfield. I was able to buy last years diesel at $415 two weeks ago, I'm not looking forward to my next fill up, nor next fall when I update my heating fuel contract.
At least its still cheaper than what the folks across the pond have to pay....
Hold my beer......
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Yeah, but the people accross the pond get free medical with their fuel.....
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Yeah, but the people accross the pond get free medical with their fuel.....
Isn't that pretty much the same thing? Buy fuel or get a free anal probe?
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Over 80 % of the world's known oil is controlled by govts of nations, NOT oil companies ( unless you want to include nationalized oil companies, but they are, again, govt owned, thus the govt of that nation owns it ).
We have enough oil known in Alaska and much much more in the sea to solve our problems, write you reps in Congress to open it up to development, it will drop the prices incredibly, plus it makes the 100s of trillions of cubic feet of natural gas ( a by product of oil drilling production )will be available ( its enough to heat almost all the USAs homes for 200 years ). Its there, we just need to get our govt to let us get it.
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CT does not tax home heating oil for residential use.
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There is oil in the mid west somewhere too I saw in the news, some guy is selling 3 or 4 barrels a day out of his back yard and planning to drill 3 more wells.
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There are small pockets of oil sprinkled throughout the midwest. The 'see-saw' pumps can been seen occaisionally from the interstates. My dad the oil baron has owned shares in some of these forever and rakes in a staggereing $2K or so a year from the sales.
As far as the rest of this mess, IMHO the US has scads of oil/shale/coal that can be resourced now and for the future. If we increase our own production, we decrease the demand for foreign oil. Demand goes down, the price should follow.
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CT does not tax home heating oil for residential use.
You are correct I managed to find that out.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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There is oil in the mid west somewhere too I saw in the news, some guy is selling 3 or 4 barrels a day out of his back yard and planning to drill 3 more wells.
He's selling 3 barrels a day? What's he do? Put it out on the front lawn with a "for sale mid west crude" sign on it.
he better hope the eco-fanatics dont get wind of this. Or worst the EPA could find out there is some kind of endagered
snail living on his proerty.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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It's the old story of supply and demand. There is no (current) shortage in the oil supplies like during the embargo of the '70s when we had to wait in line for a limited amount.
I don't have to wait, I don't have any limits on how much gasoline I can buy. There is no shortage.
The prices are driven by market forces, That is; "sell as much of it as we can for however much people will pay".
Opening new sources of crude will not affect prices since a shortage is not the cause of current prices.
With just a few corporations controlling the fuel for the entire nation; they have formed an essential monopoly and performed and end run around the price fixing prohibitions of the anti-trust laws.
That's what Congress is supposedly trying to sort out.
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Jack,
I had twin 250's in my home in Wolcott can not imagine do not want to know what it would cost to fill thoses puppies up a $4.25 COD.
83 here today in Atl mid 80's for the weekend. Give up being a CT. Millionaire and move to GA. Plenty of machine shop jobs down here.
John
John I've been seriuosly considering abandoning this sinking scow of a state, and flying south. But trouble is I'm still pretty firmly rooted here.
My oldest son moved to Fla last fall. He moved back here in March. My youngest is due to return from Iraq in June.My 84 yr old Mom who lives a block away is starting to have ailments. My whole family lives within 5 miles of me.(hmm sound like hillbillies).
Cant realy see myself joining the exodus anytime soon.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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There is oil in the mid west somewhere too I saw in the news, some guy is selling 3 or 4 barrels a day out of his back yard and planning to drill 3 more wells.
He's selling 3 barrels a day? What's he do? Put it out on the front lawn with a "for sale mid west crude" sign on it.
he better hope the eco-fanatics dont get wind of this. Or worst the EPA could find out there is some kind of endagered
snail living on his proerty.
I have no idea who to or how he sells it but I saw that he does in the news.
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Is it this feller? 
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Hey Bill! Where did you snap that picture of Becky's Ron at the SWTF? Was it out on the patio??? Now didn't I tell ya he reminded me of Buddy Ebsen? 'Cept maybe a lightly younger one like this one here.....  (am I RIGHT???!!!!) 
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WOW!!! Uncanny 
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Over 80 % of the world's known oil is controlled by govts of nations, NOT oil companies ( unless you want to include nationalized oil companies, but they are, again, govt owned, thus the govt of that nation owns it ).
We have enough oil known in Alaska and much much more in the sea to solve our problems, write you reps in Congress to open it up to development, it will drop the prices incredibly, plus it makes the 100s of trillions of cubic feet of natural gas ( a by product of oil drilling production )will be available ( its enough to heat almost all the USAs homes for 200 years ). Its there, we just need to get our govt to let us get it.
That MIGHT be true, IF not for two things. One, the price is controlled more by speculation on the commodities market (since it doesn't cost $1 more now to drill for oil than it did 4 months ago, and taxes haven't increased $1/gallon in that time to my recollection), and therefore, with whatever flimsy excuse comes along to make speculators nervous (why is it nothing ever seems to CALM them to lower prices?!), they start buying up oil to hedge against this or that. Secondly, even if it were true that we have that much oil under us, do you think the oil companies, out of patriotism, aren't going to just sell whatever excess capacity they have to China, and India to satisfy their demand? OPEC and industry experts have already said that there is NO shortage of crude on the market right now, so I'm am not quite sure how increasing the supply of something that is already readily available will do anything except increase inventories.
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Hey Bill! Where did you snap that picture of Becky's Ron at the SWTF? Was it out on the patio???
Now didn't I tell ya he reminded me of Buddy Ebsen? 'Cept maybe a lightly younger one like this one here.....
(am I RIGHT???!!!!)
That's funny he kind of looks like Barnaby Jones too! 
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So, if a rumor got started on wallstreet that several new deposits had been discovered in an area that was easy to drill and that someone had invented an ultra clean highly efficient portable refinery, oil prices should drop like the price of California realestate.
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So, if a rumor got started on wallstreet that several new deposits had been discovered in an area that was easy to drill and that someone had invented an ultra clean highly efficient portable refinery, oil prices should drop like the price of California realestate.
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You would think that Ed, but even when the Secretary General of OPEC comes out publicly and says there is no shortage on the supply side, that would calm these speculators down. Quite frankly, I don't think Oil should be traded as a commodity...
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I just paid £1.14 per litre when I filled the car with unleaded! that is $2.25 and no free medical. Any of you on the other side of the pond want to adopt me? Sure there must be an easier way of movin permanently to the US, which doesn't involve having to do all that paperwork and takin the wife with me. Can I bring my TBA and fill her up while I'm there? 
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Sure there must be an easier way of movin permanently to the US, which doesn't involve having to do all that paperwork and takin the wife with me. Can I bring my TBA and fill her up while I'm there?
Sure fly over to Mexico first! 
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Nah, I'd feel like I was in a cheech and chong movie.
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OMG have you guys heard Maxine Waters? finally the left showed what they really want to do. This is why the left scares me. Maxine Waters outrageous remark.
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I have now I would almost like to see it happen, trouble is the obscene salaries would seem small by comparison then I bet. The gov't never made anything better by taking it over that I can think of.
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Well, I don't know about that Ian. Back before Haliburton took over the Army, we USED to win wars!!!!
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I know and we should have just kept everything at the end a WW2.
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Back before Haliburton took over the Army, we USED to win wars!!!!
Oh Dwight, you are so old-fashioned.
Didn't you know ... you are only supposed to SUSTAIN them nowadays. 
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The oil companies took over the government. Why not turn it around?
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