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I was considering changing out my slightly damaged long slash cut TORS for another set of the same, but am now thinking of either the Bubs or the Specialty Spares.
Can anyone tell me the differences between them, which is louder, lower toned, better tuned to an '03 Speedmaster, etc.?
Any info would be appreciated!
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I would think Bubs owners would say get Bubs. As a Specialty Spares owner, I like them better than Bubs. There's probably not much difference in performance if both are set up right. I like the SS appearance-more straight and smaller at the ends with the slash cut slightly down instead to the side. The SS pipes may not be quite as loud but have removable baffles you could actually tone down or make louder by adding or taking away baffle material. Much louder than Bubs (too loud) if you leave them out. They are deeper sounding than most I've heard.
The SS pipes also were designed just for our bikes and come with jets that should nail most requirements. My dealer sold me on the SS but now sells Bubs. I think SS went through a period they couldn't supply them fast enough.
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I can speak to the tone and loudness....
My bike...07 America SS long cannons w/ freak.
Steves bike (Conwy)...07 America Bubs w/ stock box. I had to ride his bike after a slight misshap so heres my .02
SS seem louder to me at certain times. Their tone seems to change at different rpms. I.e. at 2000-3000 rpm, not loud at all. 3000-4000...loud as can be. At 5000 not as loud ... as a matter of fact kinda sedate but sounds great.
Bubs seem more conistent in sound through the rpm range. I honestly never noticed a change regardless of rpm.
SS at idle...mmmmm....love it. Crack that throttle and the beast awakens. Get cruising at a nice pace and mmmmm...No regrets here man.
Bubs...nice pipes, look good, sound good. I hate to say it but you wont go wrong there either.
Both pipes are great and both look and sound different.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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Thanks for your reply Bob, would you be so kind as to post some pics of your bike with the exhaust installed? I tried to access the PhotoPost section here and it doesn't seem to be working.
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i think bubs give more power, have a great idle but lose that great sound as rpm's rise. ss have a lil less performance but i think they sound better. or you could go with thunderbike and have the best of both worlds  Frank
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SS at idle...mmmmm....love it. Crack that throttle and the beast awakens. Get cruising at a nice pace and mmmmm...No regrets here man.
Bubs...nice pipes, look good, sound good. I hate to say it but you wont go wrong there either.
Both pipes are great and both look and sound different.
+1 I have SS (ceramic coated black) and am very happy but the Bubs and the Thunderbikes are in the same class...it's all good, pick the one that looks best to you.
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Since the PhotoPost has been down, I've not had an easy way to post pics. I liked the fact it was more private than Photobucket which I haven't used yet. Hopefully, someone that has the chrome long slash cuts can post some pics. The long cannons are the same length without the slash cut at the end.
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I just bought the SS because they come with the jets and AI removal bolts.
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I just bought the SS because they come with the jets and AI removal bolts.
You won't regret it, Dale makes an excellent product and provides very good after-the-sale customer service. You might want to get some foam ear plugs...  
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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You might want to get some foam ear plugs...
what oldroadie said...and youll get a lot of "what are your grinning about" comments...simply fire her up every time someone asks.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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Thanks for all the responses guys....I seem to notice a bias towards the SS pipes..anyone like the Bubs more and why? ;-)
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hey oldroadie..nice bike. what bags are those if I may inquire. thanks..snorty.
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hey oldroadie..nice bike. what bags are those if I may inquire. thanks..snorty.
I'm clueless, they came as throwovers when I bought the bike and I've since set them up on EZ brackets. The original owner said they were a gift from his wife and I strongly suspect they were custom made for that purpose.
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ok, I've read some folks having some rust issues with the Bubs... what kind of material did they both (bub and ss) used?
My understanding is that stainless steel is best, is this true? is any one of these two stainless?
This will be my deciding factor... will be buying a set by the end of the week... FINALLY!
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I'm not sure what the base material is but my Specialty Spares chrome still looks great, no rust, and they are almost 3 years and 12,000 miles old. If you haven't removed the AI and need jets, the SS package with the kits is a great deal.
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Were you able to buy the SS ceramic coated or did you have it done afterwards?
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Bob, what sized jets do they come with buddy? I've got a coming my way now but wasn't sure what jets came with them. It's not really a concern though cos I'll probably be keeping the 150's that's in the carbs now but just interested for when dyno time comes round.
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Same experience here but I have about 23k on my SS long Cannons. No offense to Bub (or other) owners, but the SS pipes are the only pipes that I recall no one has required them to be replaced, repaired, etc. Mine look as new (weldss, mounts). Quote:
I'm not sure what the base material is but my Specialty Spares chrome still looks great, no rust, and they are almost 3 years and 12,000 miles old. If you haven't removed the AI and need jets, the SS package with the kits is a great deal.
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I started out with SS and added turn down to them still look like new.
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Staffo, the SS kit comes with 130/45s because they dyno tested them with a stock airbox with snorkel removed and a UNI filter. Their test showed about a 6 Hp gain. Unless someone has made other carb changes, this set up about nails the bike with the SS pipes.
But, you have a Freak set up that would require larger mains than their test set up. You'll probably keep your 150s but you will have the option of trying the 45s if you wanted to.
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Thanks Bob. You're right, 150 mains, stock needles with one shim, 45 pilots. I think this'll be close for when I take it to be dynoed. If anyone else can tell me they think another setting is closer to the mark I wouldn't mind hearing from them. Cheers all 
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Just to update, I ended up buying a set of Sceptres and have to say that, besides the Freak install, this has got to be one of my favorite mods to date. They let out a loud bark on start up and, with the 1.5" baffles in, have a pleasing growl whenever I get on the throttle and a non annoyingly loud purr while cruising. The stainless finish is beautiful and the length just right for my tastes!
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Aaron,
Do the 1.5" baffles come stock with the pipes for $650, or did you have to pay additional for those? I'm seriously considering these pipes as well right now...
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Hi Jim, The 1.5" baffles are $95 in addition to the price of the pipes. I am very happy with the sound and if I want it louder (which I don't at the moment) it's as easy as taking out a screw on each pipe and pulling the baffles out. I doubt you'd be dissapointed with the look or sound. Here's the link (make sure you have the sound on your speakers turned up...)  http://www.triumph1.com/america_&_speedmaster.htmCheers!
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That's what I thought. I've been on their website checking them out for a while now. Do the pipes come with any baffles for $650.00? Just curious, as I'm leaning towards SS pipes as well because of the value pricing. Thanks, Jim PS - Pic man, pics!
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I don't believe they include any baffles for the base price of $650, but it's probably worth the extra $. I haven't tried mine without the baffles yet but don't think I'd want them any louder. The sound is just about perfect for me.
I'll post some pics here today or tomorrow and also a link to a sound clip so you can hear what they sound like.
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I don't believe they include any baffles for the base price of $650, but it's probably worth the extra $. I haven't tried mine without the baffles yet but don't think I'd want them any louder. The sound is just about perfect for me.
I'll post some pics here today or tomorrow and also a link to a sound clip so you can hear what they sound like.
Cheers!
Pics & a sound byte would be great my friend. Although I've seen & heard them on the internet, it's always nice to get more research data when you can.
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$650 PLUS $95 for baffles? You guys are nuts. I'll take my SS that now run $440 which includes a jet kit and air-injection removal kit (and re-packable baffles). Quote:
I don't believe they include any baffles for the base price of $650, but it's probably worth the extra $. I haven't tried mine without the baffles yet but don't think I'd want them any louder. The sound is just about perfect for me.
I'll post some pics here today or tomorrow and also a link to a sound clip so you can hear what they sound like.
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You are all nuts I'll take my gutted stock pipes that cost me nothing but a little time.
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I guess it all comes down to esthetics. I pondered over the Bubs and the Specialty Spares for quite awhile but in the end decided I liked the looks of the Sceptres much more then the other options.
It was a bonus when I heard what they sound like and don't regret the price. ;-)
I'll try to get those pics and a sound byte uploaded tomorrow.
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Well, I made a choice. SS long cannons. Purchased thru my friend Fast Eddy last night. I'm geeked.
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I haven't used the Bubs, but my dealer sells them as an option to the TORs. When I bought my bike they were selling Specialty Spares. They changed when they were getting backordered and Bubs made them a better deal.
I think the SS long slash cuts look much better than the Triumph or Bubs. One other thing, the Bubs aren't quite as throaty and are louder overall than the SS.
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Enjoy them Jim, Some pics and a sound byte would be cool when you have the time to post!
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Will do Aaron.
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I realize this is an older thread, however, here is my experience with Bub exhaust systems. Love the exhaust note! BUT! After three years of use, the left exhaust has a rusted through (or did it crack?) hole about 1 1/2" wide where it connects to the header. ALso, the pipe within the the exhaust system is diconnected. It's been over a month since I've ridden the bike due to back order issues. A rep with Bub claims that he's having trouble with the chromers.
As a business owner, I fully understand backorder issues.
However, having an exhaust rust through in three years doesn't set well with me. Now they are having problems with the chromers. Do I really want them to send a replacement?
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Any link to an audio wav for the specialty spares?
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Any link to an audio wav for the specialty spares?
http://www.frontiernet.net/~dmclec/
There you go.
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Wow! I'm sold. Love that deep throaty sound and no popping on deceleration. I appreciate the link. Going to place my order now. The SS Long Canon w/billet tip and ceremic coating. I'm stoked!
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You won't regret it. Mine look new after over 25k, and at a decent price compared to some of the others. Quote:
Wow! I'm sold. Love that deep throaty sound and no popping on deceleration. I appreciate the link. Going to place my order now. The SS Long Canon w/billet tip and ceremic coating. I'm stoked!
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