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So the main reason they say change it is becuase of particulate matter in it? The antifreeze doesnt break down chemically after a bunch of heating and cooling cycles?
I dont mind doing that as long as it wont hurt my vehicles in any way
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I have never had any problems and yes for the most part it's particulate contamination but check the specific gravity (get a cheap anti-freeze tester) If it has broken down you will see it in the tester most important is the temp it freezes at or boils at. It gets rust in it after awhile. I have a couple friends who buy used anti-freeze from me but they do it to put in old cars that leak.
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Amazing. I stated this and a few others agreed: Global Warming is a bad name. It should be Global Climate Change. You always get the "It snowed here in March...its not warming" LOL.....Hilarious. If you dont understand the concept that climate change can make this happen then dont even comment.
Sure, that way you can prophesize the apocalypse and demand sacrifice regardless of what happens. Every event can be claimed as proof of your prediction and you’re right no matter what happens. No one has had it so good since the Oracle at Delphi.
Droughts, floods, blizzards, heat, windy, calm, cloudy, clear, cooling, warming, it doesn’t matter, they’re ALL evidence of the prescience of the theory. If calling it “Global Warming†doesn’t work out because it’s not getting warmer let’s just change it to “Climate Change.†Of course the recommended remedies stay the same regardless of the stated problem.
Not even Jim Jones or David Koresh demanded, and received, such blind obedience. Not since the American Communist Party abruptly changed from wanting the US to stay neutral in WWII to demanding we fight the Nazis coincident with Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, has there been such a sudden shift demanded of true believers. The funny thing is that those who are willing to make the shift don’t even see it.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Global Warming ...er.....climate change ......advocates are and have been working to develop a greater draw of sheeple have they not?
Whatever they can do to vilify those who are cognizant to research and think for themselves is their political global agenda. Its all about making money and establishing power.
Nothing more.
Good reply Ladisney.
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OK I meant People causeing global arming is a load. We can't hope to match the amount of greenhouse gas expelled by the planet or even come close. I was just being lazy. Then to put it on cars and motorcycles and lawnmowers,etc.. is absolutely crazy. There are much larger sources but no one wants to go with out electricity , or plastic or any number of other things. What is going on as far as any warming has little or nothing to do with us, it's all part of a natural cycle that's been going on for millions of years. Our little bit is but a speck in the larger scheme of things.
A big part of the forest fire problem is because we prevent the natural cycle of those fires so when they do hit they are bad and plenty of fuel that has been building up.I have seen and read quite a bit on that too.
If you guys want to believe in the mythical global warming be my guest.
Now you're way off base there, Ian ol'boy.
I was watching the Discovery Channel the other night. The show about the top ten military rifles of all time.
The AK-47 came in at number one.
Seems it's nearly indestructible, reliable as the sunrise, idiot proof and cheap to make. As such, every faction in even the poorest parts of the globe are armed.
And if people didn't make AK-47s, where did they come from??
Hmmmm? Answer me that. 
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Global Cooling, Gobal Warming, Global Climate Change, I dont care what the lable of the day is suppose to be, if it is man caused, then we need to bring back two cycle motors, styrophome cups and CFC aresol cans, I want it to sunny and 76! I am tired of being cold. As far as global arming is concerned, I'm all for that  Soren
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And if you stick your head in the sand, the danger disappears.
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Amazing. I stated this and a few others agreed: Global Warming is a bad name. It should be Global Climate Change. You always get the "It snowed here in March...its not warming" LOL.....Hilarious. If you dont understand the concept that climate change can make this happen then dont even comment.
Sure, that way you can prophesize the apocalypse and demand sacrifice regardless of what happens. Every event can be claimed as proof of your prediction and you’re right no matter what happens. No one has had it so good since the Oracle at Delphi.
Droughts, floods, blizzards, heat, windy, calm, cloudy, clear, cooling, warming, it doesn’t matter, they’re ALL evidence of the prescience of the theory. If calling it “Global Warming†doesn’t work out because it’s not getting warmer let’s just change it to “Climate Change.†Of course the recommended remedies stay the same regardless of the stated problem.
Not even Jim Jones or David Koresh demanded, and received, such blind obedience. Not since the American Communist Party abruptly changed from wanting the US to stay neutral in WWII to demanding we fight the Nazis coincident with Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, has there been such a sudden shift demanded of true believers. The funny thing is that those who are willing to make the shift don’t even see it.
LOL....Whatever dude. I never prophesized the apocalypse or tried to convince anyone with any of my post anything but this....
Whether you believe or not. Do what is right for the planet. Please read ALL my posts in the thread and also the Hybrid Car post before you comment and quote me.
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Ah geez, Steve. Now he's going to accuse you of getting all "snotty" on him 
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Maybe....not like my snotty butt cares anymore. I figure that will be my last post about it all. I have grown tired of trying to talk logically and only a few understanding it
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OK I meant People causeing global arming is a load. We can't hope to match the amount of greenhouse gas expelled by the planet or even come close. I was just being lazy. Then to put it on cars and motorcycles and lawnmowers,etc.. is absolutely crazy. There are much larger sources but no one wants to go with out electricity , or plastic or any number of other things. What is going on as far as any warming has little or nothing to do with us, it's all part of a natural cycle that's been going on for millions of years. Our little bit is but a speck in the larger scheme of things.
A big part of the forest fire problem is because we prevent the natural cycle of those fires so when they do hit they are bad and plenty of fuel that has been building up.I have seen and read quite a bit on that too.
If you guys want to believe in the mythical global warming be my guest.
Now you're way off base there, Ian ol'boy.
I was watching the Discovery Channel the other night. The show about the top ten military rifles of all time.
The AK-47 came in at number one.
Seems it's nearly indestructible, reliable as the sunrise, idiot proof and cheap to make. As such, every faction in even the poorest parts of the globe are armed.
And if people didn't make AK-47s, where did they come from??
Hmmmm? Answer me that.
oops! I meant warming, I tend to drop letters quite a bit when I type, I usually catch it but not always!
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I want it to sunny and 76! I am tired of being cold.
I'm with you, it's in the 40s here and I still have a foot of snow on either side of my driveway.
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I'll 3rd the warm and sunny! I was riding in nice warm weather in January and here is is almost april and the highs are in the 40s. I'm ready for weather in the 70s too!
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There have been significant chunks of ice melting and breaking off of the Artic ice pack at the North Pole and in Antarctica, but this isn't such a big deal, because it is salt water, which doesn't dilute ocean thermalclines like the Gulf Stream (although it will help global sea levels rise).
I was reading through these old posts and I thought I would jump in here. Since a lot of skepticism about GW is based on misinformation I wanted to clear up the logic used above.
All sea ice is, for the most part, made of fresh water. Sea ice forms from the bottom of the ice sheet. As the sea water freezes and crystalizes on the bottom of the ice pack, the salt drops out. Salt crystals aren't compatible with water ice crystals. The water directly under the ice becomes super cold and super saturated with salt.
You are probably saying "So what? Why bring up this technicality?" The reason is that super cold, super salty water sinks to the bottom of the sea. It displaces bottom water, pushing it away and forming bottom currents that circulate all around the globe. It's the main driving mechanism for thermal haline circulation, or the ocean bottom conveyor. It eventually causes upwelling of bottom nutrients in other areas like the Grand Banks and areas off Europe. These bottom currents even make their way as far as the north Pacific. We can tell this is true because we have age dated the water using carbon-14. The further we get from the areas of sinking, the older the bottom water.
This sinking of surface water can't happen in non-arctic waters because of thermal layering. Remember how the Red October hid under the thermoclines? There are only two main areas where bottom water is formed (ie cold, salty, surface water sinks to the bottom) and those are the Weddell Sea off the coast of Antarctica, and in the Arctic Ocean the off the coast of Greenland. Both areas are showing signs of pack ice collapse. What happens if one of the main drivers for ocean circulation goes away? Nothing good, I suspect.
Oh BTW, pack ice contributes very little to sea level rise. The volume shrinks slightly as ice turns to water, and pack ice is 9/10s submerged to start with. As ice melts it adds no volume or level change to the the water that it is floating in. The 6 inches or so of sea level rise that we have seen in the last 50 years is attributed mostly to thermal expansion.
Well, just my 2 cents worth.
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Speakin' o' which...Has anybody heard from Vanilla Ice lately???  (...or should we maybe just chalk that one up in the One-Hit-Wonder Column???) 
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Seems like a huge conspiracy to me! The world has a natural cycle of climate change, Ice age slowly melting away again etc. I figure that if it's got to the point that the govenment have actually stopped slagging of greenpeace and started to warn people, then it's too late to fix it anyway. If the Oil giants are helping to find green alternatives to fossil fuels, then it's more likely that we are actually close to running out and thats why, the oil companies, the government and the car producers are all working together to find cleaner fuels, which they can then tax the ****** out of. Anyway, I'm not gonna run out and hug a tree. Gonna convert my 4x4 to run on whale fuel. Never gonna ride an electric bike, they're too quiet. Gonna sit atop a mountain in Scotland, sipping tequila in the sunshine and picking pineapples from the neares tree and whatch as my fellow Englishmen drown 
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Can somebody tell me what's the Earth ideal temperature?
No one knows... then why do we spend millions on trying to find out if there is global warming? Next thing will be that we need to burn more fuel to warm up the Earth because Global Cooling is imminent.
Global Warming is nothing but a scam.
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bbbbut...but...Al Gore says.....
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Can somebody tell me what's the Earth ideal temperature?
No one knows...
You don't know? Really? I'd say it's a temperature range where it feels comfortable to live. It's a temperature where we don't have thousands (or millions?) of people dropping dead from heat stroke. It's a temperature where we keep some ice at the poles to act as cooling sink for the planet. I think the answer is pretty obvious.
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Global Warming is nothing but a scam.
So...that must mean that glaciologists working in Greenland are conspiring with oceanographers working in the Indian Ocean, and biochemists studying carbon isotopes in labs in California are calling up geologists studying volcanoes in Indonesia, even if they might all be from different countries or speak different languages. And someone says, "Hey, let's scam all the people in the world, including government leaders and the CEOs of mega-businesses. Let's make everyone believe in this big hoax called global warming. And let's get every scientist in the world in on it. It should be fun, and profitable too. And every scientist will buy into it, and none of them will worry about their careers or their professional reputations." So then all those scientists start turning in data that validates a warming climate, but it's all fake.
Um...yeah, right.
Now THAT would be so stupendously implausible that it's beyond imagining.
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bbbbut...but...Al Gore says.....
How come you guys keep hiding behind Al Gore? Don't you have any real ideas to back up all that hogwash you keep spewing? If you really believe that global warming isn't real, then back it up with REAL information. Convince me. I don't want something concocted by some pseudo-scientist who is bought and paid for by Exxon. Let's have something peer reviewed by the scientific community. Let's have something that follows the rules of physics and chemistry. Let's have something credible.
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Eeh! Sounds too much like homework to me, John! And I'm ALMOST sure those around here most vehemently opposed to your position, and those who as you said "keep hiding behind the monotoned Mr.Gore"(that "monotoned" adjective was mine and mine alone, BTW) probably never cared much for homework! (and so my old friend, I'd say give it a rest, 'cause unfortunately you're never going to win 'em over....I can tell you this just from my VAST EXPERIENCES in a whole host of other topics beside THIS ONE around here, ya know....I mean just TRY and GET that dunderheaded IAN to wear his friggin' HELMET for chrissake...GO AHEAD, I DARE YA!!!!)
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Ru roh....somebody threw some fire on the progressives bonfire.
Global warming heck. Its three days before Memorial day and its cold and raining here in Tucson. Ole al gore just pisses me off to no end. Ya know this cooling trend that is so out of season is ....His fault.
If he had just won ....well heck he'd a had something to do that was shall we say more productive. This global cooling/warming whatever it is woulda never happened ...see?
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...and those who as you said "keep hiding behind the monotoned Mr.Gore"(that "monotoned" adjective was mine and mine alone, BTW) probably never cared much for homework!
Hi there Dwight. How's life treating you?
I don't disagree that Gore is a Bore, and he certainly can't dance, but he really has nothing to do with global warming. He is only the messenger by virtue of his mastery of PowerPoint. He brought attention to the issue, but he didn't create the issue.
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(and so my old friend, I'd say give it a rest, 'cause unfortunately you're never going to win 'em over....
I know, I know, but I've come to the conclusion that unthoughtful words should not go unchallenged. Besides, what's the fun in just sitting back?
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I mean just TRY and GET that dunderheaded IAN to wear his friggin' HELMET for chrissake...GO AHEAD, I DARE YA!!!!)
Far be it for me to challenge him on that! I rarely wear mine. But then, I haven't ridden much lately either.
It snowed today...and rained, and hailed, and blew, and we had a tornado about a mile from my house. All in all a pretty exciting day. Now it's past the witching hour. I need some sleep.
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Yep! And so I'm gonna throw this right back at YOU Kevin for votin' for Idiot Boy. 'Cause back in 2000 if Al Bore...err...GORE would have taken Arizona, then that whole Florida thing would'a been a non-issue, and THEN he'd would'a had a friggin' JOB! And THEN he wouldn't have had to find a "cause" to take up!  You see...once again...it's all YOUR FAULT, Kevin ol' boy! (of course that would have meant at least 4 or maybe even 8 years of having to listen to him give totally uninspiring speeches, but then again all things considered I think I would have preferred THAT to having the other guy MANGLE the friggin' language, among the many OTHER things he's mangled up...I mean come on Kev, at this late date even YOU have to admit THAT about Idiot Boy now...RIGHT???!!!)
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So...that must mean that glaciologists working in Greenland are conspiring with oceanographers working in the Indian Ocean, and biochemists studying carbon isotopes in labs in California are calling up geologists studying volcanoes in Indonesia, even if they might all be from different countries or speak different languages. And someone says, "Hey, let's scam all the people in the world, including government leaders and the CEOs of mega-businesses. Let's make everyone believe in this big hoax called global warming. And let's get every scientist in the world in on it. It should be fun, and profitable too. And every scientist will buy into it, and none of them will worry about their careers or their professional reputations." So then all those scientists start turning in data that validates a warming climate, but it's all fake.
Um...yeah, right.
Now THAT would be so stupendously implausible that it's beyond imagining.
So what if the poeple you speak of had no impending global catastrophy to study? Nothing to research means no funding. No papers to publish, no books to write.
Is the planet warming? Yep..Is mankind to blame? There are those in the scientific community that say no.But you dont hear much from them. They tend to get "shouted down" by those who do the reasearch, publish the papers and write the books.
The media is not likely to spend money on a program that
presnts an oposing view. Who would watch it? The public is much more interested in listening to prophets of doom.And how the evil humans are reponsible. Besides all tose yuppies need somthing to feel guilty about dont they?
And where would the activists be without a cause to jump on.
Me..I'm far more worried about continental drift. Did you know that the pacific plate is moving north? And there is nothing we can do to stop it? Someday LA will be a suburb of SF...can you imagine waht the Earth will be like when that happens? We are talking Sodom meets Gahmorra here.
My god I'm glad I wont live to see that day. Bet its all those cars on the la freeway causing it.
And the Ideal temp is one you can ride your bike in.
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Whoa!!! A tornado a mile away?! Holy cow!!! Now THAT doesn't sound like much fun AT ALL, John! But what's that old saying..."A miss is as good as a mile."?! These weather patterns this spring have been pretty weird to say the least. There was a tornado in Virginia just a few weeks ago ya know, and that's pretty unusual too I hear. Anyway...nice hearing from ya, and I hope to hear that you're out there on your bike soon.(weather allowing, of course)  
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Yep! And so I'm gonna throw this right back at YOU Kevin for votin' for Idiot Boy.
"Idiot Boy" my good man is no way to refer to a former US vice president..I believe sir you owe all true idiots an appology.
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John, in the immortal words of Lazarus Long: "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig." (Not you, Dwight )
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Whoa!!! A tornado a mile away?! Holy cow!!! Now THAT doesn't sound like much fun AT ALL, John! But what's that old saying..."A miss is as good as a mile."?! These weather patterns this spring have been pretty weird to say the least. There was a tornado in Virginia just a few weeks ago ya know, and that's pretty unusual too I hear.
Anyway...nice hearing from ya, and I hope to hear that you're out there on your bike soon.(weather allowing, of course)
Yeah, I was parked under the awning at the gas station trying to get away from the hail when the tornado sirens went off. I found out later there was damage at the Walmart just a few blocks away. I had been getting an oil change and the attendant came running in and said a tornado had just hit Fort Collins and the storm was heading our way. It was shortly after that when all heck broke lose. About dark the rain turned into heavy snow. It looked like Christmas when I looked out this morning, but it's melting off fast.
Dwight, are you completely retired now? Must be nice. I'll probably still be licking envelopes in the home.
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Is the planet warming? Yep..Is mankind to blame? There are those in the scientific community that say no.But you dont hear much from them.
Who? Who are they? Who do they work for, and what are they saying? This is a myth. "They" don't exist. I'd like to see one single name of an impartial person who doesn't work for a company with a vested interest.
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And the Ideal temp is one you can ride your bike in.
Exactly.
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How come you guys keep hiding behind Al Gore? Don't you have any real ideas to back up all that hogwash you keep spewing? If you really believe that global warming isn't real, then back it up with REAL information. Convince me. I don't want something concocted by some pseudo-scientist who is bought and paid for by Exxon. Let's have something peer reviewed by the scientific community. Let's have something that follows the rules of physics and chemistry. Let's have something credible.
We don't have to since Algore and global warming hoaxers don't have to. All the evidence over the last ten years is that the hoaxers are wrong. Prove them right before you demand we accept their computer generated predictions and the economy wrecking prescriptions.
Funny how a guy who won the Nobel Peace Prize and an Oscar for his “proof†of global warming is being disowned by adherents to his hoax. Once you can prove any of the nonsense he spouts to be true then you have standing to demand proof from the rest of us.
Just out of curiosity, can you prove that those you accuse of whoring for Exxon are actually doing so or is that just a slur to discredit them? And even if they were, is that worse than whoring for leftist foundations and environmentalist wacko groups?
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Been listening to Rush again, I see . Is that a copy/paste, or a paraphrase?
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Come on Bigbill. Can't you make the case? Rush isn't on yet anyhow.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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We've kind of beat this one up, haven't we Larry? (And you're way off key  )
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It's like an itch we can't stop scratching. 
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Yeah, maybe we should just do like the old joke about the guys in prison and assign points and rebuttals numbers to save time. 
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Robert Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy Conservation in Ohio State's Department of Mechanical Engineering thinks global warming is a natual occurance and could reverse itself in 10 to 20 years. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/06/010615071248.htm
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bbbbut...but...Al Gore says.....
How come you guys keep hiding behind Al Gore? Don't you have any real ideas to back up all that hogwash you keep spewing? If you really believe that global warming isn't real, then back it up with REAL information. Convince me. I don't want something concocted by some pseudo-scientist who is bought and paid for by Exxon. Let's have something peer reviewed by the scientific community. Let's have something that follows the rules of physics and chemistry. Let's have something credible.
I have no desire to convince you of anything, believe what you want. I was joking but you have to have a sense of humor to see that I guess. There are scientists on both sides of the question and I believe it is part of a natural cycle that's been going on for a very long time.
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