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#245375 03/07/2008 6:15 PM
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I have just received some inside information from what I believe to be a reliable source. A good friend of mine is the manager of a Texaco fuel station. He has been forewarned about longterm fuel prices in the UK.

Expect to be paying around the £1.20 per litre for unleaded in the coming months.

It gets worse, much worse. Having hit this all time high, prices appear to be set to rise even higher to around £1.80 per litre for unleaded and £2.00 for diesel (DERV).

The government have already made it illegal to protest outside fuel distribution centres so, what the f*** is happening here? Anyone else know more about this worrying development?

It is interesting to read that the cost of a brand new TBA/ Speedie in the UK is around the £6,000 mark. I find it unbelievable that our American friends can obtain the same machines at the same level in dollars!!

Somebody is taking the p*** out of us. Revolution I say!


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I heard Congress is supposed to step in here, but I'll believe that when I see it. average price here is $3.15 a gallon last I heard. The local stations here are $3.21 a gallon.I hear we are supposed to hit $4 a gallon by late spring.


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The_Dog33 #245377 03/07/2008 6:55 PM
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Bloody H**l, Ian - you don't know how lucky you are!

$3.21 equates to £1.60 per gallon US.

Here, our gallons are a little bit bigger [for once, in our favour :-) ]. Imperial gallons are 4.5 litres. Price per gallon currently (£1.10/litre) is therefore £5.95/gallon (imperial). At today's exchange rate, that's $11.98!!!!!

How would you guys in the US and elsewhere feel about that!


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The_Dog33 #245378 03/07/2008 6:57 PM
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Hmm........

American Gallons are smaller than here in the UK and our friends in the Antipodes. Be we were at £2 ($4) for a UK gallon when I worked in a petrol station 14 years ago.
We're somewhere aproaching £5 a gallon now....

It really annoys me. In some ways I should be glad as a work for the crap that is First Group and it'll mean that everyone will get on the buses/trains, and that'll push up my shares... But it cos me over £15 to fill up at the weekend and it's never cost me that much for normal unleaded before. And that was at a supermarket.... Super yes, normal no.
Though a tank will last me at least a month if I just go to and from work....but that's no fun. And I'm not at work at the mo!!!!


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GinaS #245379 03/07/2008 7:50 PM
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In oz currently between $1.40 - $1.50 (Australian) / litre depending on the day (cheaper on Tuesdays for some reason) at 46p per ozzy dollar thats errm jeeze - a lot less - a bit more than half 80p/litre ? .

1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres
1 Imp gallon = 4.54609 litres

I never realised there was such a big difference between US and Imperial gallons - I guess in the UK Hoss Cartwright would have only been wearing an 8 gallon hat
Anyway, for that reason I am sticking to litres cos the us/imp gallon thing is confusing!

I have a ute which runs on LPG at around 70-80 cents (Australian) thats about 40p / litre. A month or two ago it was only 50c/litre. LPG seems to go up with the cost of petrol. Now I know petrol companies wouldnt rip me off, so why is that?

Governments dont care if fuel prices go up - its a stealth tax - petrol dearer, tax is % of price - government gets more money out of your pocket. Better still they can blame petrol companies or world oil prices. The only problem is the mass of the population believe them !


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Us gallons, imperial gallons... time to convert to the metric system!!




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popeye #245381 03/07/2008 8:32 PM
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G'Day, David - In the U.K. the bulk of the price we pay for fuel goes to government in tax.

If you live where I live, then you can't rely on public transport (there being few relatively buses and trains when compared to the urban centres) and one is totally dependent on cars, motorcycles and pushbikes for transport. The imposition of such grossly unfair taxes is wholly unacceptable and is certainly one reason why the UK is one of the most expensive places to live on the Planet.

We might be forgiven for thinking that some of our heavy fuel taxes go towards the upkeep of roads and infrastructure but I have my doubts. Why? because the budgets of local authorities, that are responsible for maintaining the public highways, are often capped by central government with the result that insufficient funds are available for the support of roads and highways.

In the case of my own locality, Cornwall, the local authority is considering de-classifying many of its roads, an action that will remove its obligations to spend public money in supporting them. Already, some roads in this area, an area that depends heavily on tourism (and, therefore, its roads) are so pot-holed, scarred and worn that I often feel unsafe when riding my TBA along them. In fact, some of the secondary, macadamed roads here in Cornwall are already in a far worse state than some of the unclassified, unmetalled roads in the Bush of New South Wales!

The trouble with the UK is that some elected representatives take the view that, once elected, they are there for life - indeed, that is often the reality. Bearing in mind also that British politicians take an oath of allegiance, not to the people or a constitution, but to an unelected monarch means that the interest of the people takes second or third place and the country remains in what to me at least, seems to be a Doldrum, in which its leaders appear more concerned with 'royal protocol' and profit, than they do for the peasants. I don't know what other Brits here think and I would be interested to know if any others feel the same way.

Together with other considerations outlined elsewhere on this forum, i.e. the infestation of surveillance cameras, ostensibly for security purposes that is overwhelming this country, and the erosion of civil rights and personal freedoms, the imposition of grossly high taxes is, for me, potentially the straw that breaks the camel's back!

Sorry to be a moaner - I'll put my soap-box away in the cupboard.


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The really sad part is that it has little to do with supply/demand or production costs. The prices are being driven up by the idiot speculators buying up oil futures on the commodities markets. Here's hoping the bottom suddenly drops out of the market and they all lose their heinies.


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I knew UK gallon and US gallon were different and wasn't sure how it would equate after converting both the fluid measure and pound to dollar and frankly didn't really feel like trying. Lack of sleep last night. To us here it sure seems steep. If you guys are paying even more I can with out a doubt sympathize.


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erosion of civil rights and personal freedoms




Dont get me on smoking in pubs !!!

Latest is that people smoking on street (because they cant in pubs) is a problem - so some want to ban that too.


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A snippet of news from oz. Petrol prices are likely to be double in 10 years time! It must be true it was on the tele!

Wow - given they doubled in the last 2 years I drrrream of it taking 10 years for petrol prices to double again!

I have been told I am too negative - personnaly I think I am just a grumpy old b'stard - but never let it be said I dont listen. So lets be positive about this, maybe fuel prices will reduce the number of cages on the road - that would be good wouldnt it?


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I personally like the smoking bans but fundamentally think they are wrong. I think no smoking in a restaurant is good since it ruins a good meal for a non-smoker unless the smoking section is actually in a seperate room with no air flow between them and an exhaust fan in the smoking room. I also don't like the idea of breathing someone elses smoke. I have the choice not to go in where smoking is though.


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I personally like the smoking bans but fundamentally think they are wrong. I think no smoking in a restaurant is good since it ruins a good meal for a non-smoker unless the smoking section is actually in a seperate room with no air flow between them and an exhaust fan in the smoking room. I also don't like the idea of breathing someone elses smoke. I have the choice not to go in where smoking is though.




Smoking/Non Smoking. George Carlin said it best.

Having a Non Smoking section in a restaurant is about as useful as a non peeing section in a swimming pool.

As for the price of gas. You guys in the UK are getting royaly shafted. We complain about the cost over here, but what you guys pay...wow!

Im glad i got out of that place when i did.


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as far as gas prices, everyone is getting shafted. All the oil companies are posting record profits while the world suffers for it.


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This one again.
Yeah, I heard that about the fuel prices too on the radio the other day.
The price of fuel is a PITA, the clowns who 'run' this God forsaken country know they have us by the nuts - we gotta have fuel.
Spare a thought for those of us that also run American V8s

My choice, I know.

The bike price - I was talking to the finance director who was doing a talk at our RAT meet at the later end of last year.
I asked him why the 'Mericans pay similar $ prices to our £ prices.
I asked why, roughly, we pay double considering we're 40 miles from the factory. Why do Triumph charge us that price?
The answer was because they can! Those were his words!

Suck it up guys and gals, suck it up.
We're paying it so get used to it.


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The problem in the UK is that everyone moans and groans at prices, but at the end of the day THAT is ALL they do. No one is prepared to do anything about it. Now in France....


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The problem in the UK is that everyone moans and groans at prices, but at the end of the day THAT is ALL they do. No one is prepared to do anything about it. Now in France....




Funny you say that.
Originaliy my post ended by saying something about revolution, hanging the scum and wasters from lamp posts etc!
Great minds and all that, eh?


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G'Day, David - In the U.K. the bulk of the price we pay for fuel goes to government in tax.




Same issue in states. In our area of Florida think we are in the range of 0.45 to .50 gallon in tax. Am sure the folks out on the left coast of the US pay even higher. Between that and EPA mandated that requires they make 40 or so different "summer" blends, shortages and high prices are here to stay. My ****** is why the heck can't they make 2 or 3 regonal blends that would meet overall regulations.


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why hang em that would be a waste.you could experiment on em and cure diseases.i think the yanks have got it right with chain gangs.

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It wouldnt be so bad if the increase in taxes from fuel reflected a proportional increase in public services and infrastructure in this country. Then I don't mind as much about paying higher taxation.


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I have been doing what I can, too bad I can't just stop using it. I only buy from BP and Hess unless I have no other choice. Since as far as I know they don't use Mid East oil. There are a couple other companies too but I forget them so I just buy from the 2. I never buy from Citgo because that's Hugo oil.

I too run 'merican V8s. Trouble is I have little choice I need them for work. My wrecker and service truck need the power. GM used to make that big 6cyl. in the 60s that was a good motor. I used to run a C 60 dump with one in it.


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I know it may be confusing with US gallons and Imperial gallons...
But I do know that I'm a huge fan of the Imperial pint.


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i think the yanks have got it right with chain gangs.




I've been saying that for years!!!!!!!
It costs a fortune to keep this scum in jail, why not let 'em earn their keep?


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seasick steve. i,ve bin lookin for this guy for ages. saw an interveiw in an old mag could,nt rememba his name the mans a star.thanx

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I aim to please.
Get yourself down to HMV, most have his last cd, plus his new one in stock.


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