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After replacing my bulbs in the light bar, I noticed the toggle switch is missing, or never had, a fastener to hold it in position. Since I had my dealer install the light bar, at the 600 mile service, I called them. They don't know the size fastener but suggested I look in the papers that came with the light bar. Surprise, no papers! I poked around the BA website and triumph website hoping I might find something on the light bar, but no luck. I really don't want to take off the toggle switch if I don't have to.
So, anyone out there know what size fastener to hold the toggle switch in place in the Triumph Light Bar? Would it be worthwhile to include a rubber washer to help seal that point?
Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Steve
Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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Maybe a trip to Radio Shack to look at their toggle switches would give you a good representative view; I don't have the Triumph lightbar so I don't know.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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are you talking the jam nut that holds it in place?
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Go to the local Ace Hardware or such with tools needed to remove the lens and look through the trays of stuff they have. If'n ya can't find one, I'll look at Vera's for ya and tell you the threads and mic the diameter.
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Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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Also the fuse blew today, 5 amp. Not sure if it's due to the higher wattage bulbs installed (original were H3 35 w, all I could find were H3 55w)
i recall it being a red fuse. Like ten red amps. For the light bar. The speedo and tail light use 5 amp fuses. fuse 8 & fuse 10.
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i recall it being a red fuse. Like ten red amps. For the light bar. The speedo and tail light use 5 amp fuses. fuse 8 & fuse 10.
Fuse 8 (5a) was blown. So I am assuming my dealer connected the light bar there. Should it be wired to Fuse 1 (10a) aka Accessory Lights? 
Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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i recall it being a red fuse. Like ten red amps. For the light bar. The speedo and tail light use 5 amp fuses. fuse 8 & fuse 10.
Fuse 8 (5a) was blown. So I am assuming my dealer connected the light bar there. Should it be wired to Fuse 1 (10a) aka Accessory Lights?
With fuse 8 gone fuse 10 is not powered-the last of a two fuse series. 10 has no power, you have no tail light. The brake light is on 7.
have you had your headlight glass off? the leads are reversed on the front position indicator bulb. front position indicator bulb is hot at the yellow wire on the harness side and hot on the brown/white side of the connector
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Moe,
Thanks for the info. Although not sure what you are getting at about the headlight. I haven't touched the headlight. It was working on my ride home today, even though the lightbar lights were out. I did not check the tail light.
I'm going to get that toggle switch snugged up again, replace the 5a fuse and see what happens. If the fuse goes again, should I switch the lightbar power to Fuse 1 (10a)?
I'm assuming (yikes!!!) that my dealer's service people (I90 Motorsports) knew what they were doing when they installed my lightbar.
Hopefully, I'll be getting my Haynes & Triumph Service Manuals for Christmas... and a bike jack! I've been holding off on tinkering too much with her until I have some documentation I can refer to.
Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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If the fuse goes again, should I switch the lightbar power to Fuse 1 (10a)?
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I'm assuming (yikes!!!) that my dealer's service people (I90 Motorsports) knew what they were doing when they installed my lightbar.
Fuse eight powers the headlight bucket 4amp bulb, the speedometer bulbs, and fuse 10.
The OEM lightbar doesn't use fuse 8. given the relay and such supplied with the Kit IF your dealer used it. The fuse you will blow with the light bar is fuse 1 per above jpg. you are blowing fuse 8, the headlight bucket bulb, thus the call to the headlight area. If you are blowing #1, check to ensure that the assessory lamps wire ends are not contacting the lens case somewhere.
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Update: I forgot that the dealer mentioned that the original toggle switch was missing from the lightbar kit when they installed it back in August. They used a generic 3-position switch instead. So I picked up a cheap, but simple on-off switch from the helpful folks at Bent Bike (Auburn). It's black, instead of shiny silver, but it works.  Unfortunately, they did not have the 5a fuse in stock but there is a spare on my bike. I'm going out soon to try and find the fuse (x2) at some other places.  The new jam nut has a touch of Loctite blue to help hold it and I'll be sure to keep an eye on it in the future. I might also look for some other cool on-off switch to replace this cheap one. Maybe a touch pad micro-switch type thingee? Light bar lights work again.  I'll also keep an eye out for possible wires grounding (earthing for those overseas) inside the lens case. Thanks very much Moe!  Merry Christmas and best wishes to all this holiday season!
Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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Zombie thread.....
Searching the forum I found this thread regarding the toggle switch on the OEM light bar.
So, I installed a light bar last month and had it working properly until Sunday when I discovered it was out (along with my taillight.)
Since they are both on the same fuse i replaced the 5amp and when I turned the key the fuse blew again.
I replaced the fuse once more but made sure the toggle switch was in the "off" position when i turned the key and sure enough no problem with the tail light. However when i switch the toggle to "on" the fuse blew again. (I should note the fuse is breaking in the middle not melting.)
Any thoughts on why this is happening? It appears to be the switch but upon examination I can not see anything obviously broke, frayed , rubbing, etc. Do these switched just go? I'm thinking if the connection is fine until I switch to on the problem is from the toggle switch forward..but not sure what else to do.
I really don't want to pull the tank and check all the wires out underneath (hope that didn't sound, too whinny)
Any ideas?
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That switch operates the relay that latches the lights on and that light bar should be on the 10 amp auxiliary circuit. If you're not blowing the 10 amp fuse the fault must be along that switch circuit, and the likely hood here is a chafed or bare hot lead to or from that spotlight switch.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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That switch operates the relay that latches the lights on and that light bar should be on the 10 amp auxiliary circuit. If you're not blowing the 10 amp fuse the fault must be along that switch circuit, and the likely hood here is a chafed or bare hot lead to or from that spotlight switch.
The only fuse blowing is the 5amp.....I've had the light buckets apart and thought I did a good inspection of the wires, guess I'll try again....
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Upon further review I did spot inside the light bucket a small scrape on the red wire where it connects to the toggle "on" terminal. Also a small scrape on the blue bulb wire also where it connects to the top piece. I covered the spots with electric tape and tried again with a new fuse.
Good news is everything lite up at this point, so I figure that much have been it.
I re-installed the light bucket (it was just hanging when I tested everything, but after the damn thing was bolted back on I tried it again and the fuse blew. This time it blew even when the toggle was off.
What else could be doing this?
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I think I would pull it back apart and get it working while it dangles and then check for voltage between the metal shells and the frame. I think you still have a bare wire touching someplace.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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I think I would pull it back apart and get it working while it dangles and then check for voltage between the metal shells and the frame. I think you still have a bare wire touching someplace.
...that's just what I did and realized the red wire was indeed the culprit so I patched it up with a little electrical tape and made sure upon re install it was farther away from the inside of the bucket.... problem solved!
Man, it doesn't take much to get a connection all fouled up, found it fairly easy though, only cost was a half dozen fuses. 
thanks for the replies, it helped a lot.
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Heat shrink wrap is an excellent tool once you get the hang of it. E-tape glue is notorious for giving up under heat, something to think about.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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Yeah, it does melt off...I use the shrink wrap stuff on my stereo connections, never thought about it otherwise, will redo the "repair" using the shrink... thanks again for the tip...
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