 This is a Harley I would buy.
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Well, er, kind of. It's actually a Buell, which is a subsidiary of Harley. Anyway, the name of the new Buell is an 1125R. Buell decided to have Rotax (an Austrian company) engineer the motor which is claimed to produce 151 horsepower at the crank, and 82+ foot/pounds of torque (see pic).  The new motor is finally a compliment to Buell's innovative frame (unlike the old dinosaur motor). See pic.  This may be America's first REAL sportbike (thanks to Austria).  -BT
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Nice... i tried sitting on a Beull... my feet didn't touch the ground.
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I've ridden an 07 Lightning XB12SS. It was a nice bike, great brakes, smooth throttle response, and the rumble of that motor in a funky naked bike chasis was just too cool.
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Eric Buell builds good bikes, this one ought to be one of his best as his engines now move into the 21st century. All of the test ride reviews have been very positive and it does look like a lot of fun.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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Very nice bike, but, I HATE DENSLY-PACKED MOTORCYCLES!!!  They look all a-jumble and look like a nightmare to work on. No room for your hands, have to take off six things to get to what you want...  I liked the tube-frame Buells better. Better looking. Okay, I'm better now   Seriously, it looks like a bike for someone who wants the dealer to do all work on it. Probably very fast though.
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Yes I totally agree ... sexy. We had this one posted a few months back. The engine is similar (slipper clutch and all) to the tested although slightly smaller Aprilia Mille 1000cc engine (again by Rotax), the only obvious difference being the cylinder angle (72 degrees versus 60 ... which immediately reminded me of Voxan). I have the Mille in my stable and the Rotax engine is superb and bulletproof. Obviously, this Buell will not sound like previous models (which I rather liked) but the new sound is also superb. I don't know if this was posted on the previous thread but the link is from YouTube. Buell 1125 I applaud Buell's choice of engine. P.S. I am imagining that engine in a cruiser ... WOW! 
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The engine Rotax is building for the BMW F800 series seems just the opposite. The bike has been plagued with problems since it's release.
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The engine Rotax is building for the BMW F800 series seems just the opposite. The bike has been plagued with problems since it's release.
That would be the parallel-twin engine ... best left to Triumph.
Just out of curiosity, what problems do they have?
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Just to list a few off the top of my head, constant oil leaking...even after multiple gasket replacements. And a problem that many owners have experienced is VERY frequent engine cut-outs while downshifting at any speed. There have been multiple reports of fuel injector issues (which may or may not have anything to do with the engine).
Also a big non engine related problem with the F800 bikes is ABS malfunctions.
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Just to list a few off the top of my head, constant oil leaking...even after multiple gasket replacements.
Ah ... British parallel-twin woes from days of old. History repeating itself.
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And a problem that many owners have experienced is VERY frequent engine cut-outs while downshifting at any speed.
My Beemer '96 RT1100 had that initially too. It was the fuel injection (as per your next point). They upgraded the fuel mapping/management software and it has been "first class" ever since.
You know, when you said that the F800 had problems, my immediate thoughts were that it is that weird counter-balancing mechanism they designed and implemented.
I quite like the bike actually.
My good lady was thinking of getting one.
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Sure does look sharp.... Maybe in addition to my TBA..... 
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This may be America's first REAL sportbike (thanks to Austria).
But, I thought this was Americas first sportbike,
http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/classics/bike.asp?id=13
At least the name says so....
It's also where BMW learnt to make flat twins.
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This may be America's first REAL sportbike (thanks to Austria).
But, I thought this was Americas first sportbike,
http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/classics/bike.asp?id=13
At least the name says so....
It's also where BMW learnt to make flat twins.
From HD? 
If at all (BMW already had vast experience building aero engines), I don't think BMW would have needed to look that far west (to HD).
If you read the article further down you will find HD was "influenced" by British Douglas Motorcycles:
""Bob McClean ... owner of this rare 1922 Sport Twin, notes that it was clearly influenced by machines produced by Britain’s Douglas brand, which pioneered the opposed-twin design more than a decade earlier.
In building the Sport Twin, Harley took Douglas’ lead in orienting the cylinders in line with the frame.""
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Reminds me of the old saying..."There's nothing new under the sun."
And speakin' o' which....I wonder if you took a water-cooled DOHC flat four, positioned in line with the frame(al la the Douglas Dragonfly of old), and put it in a modern aluminum Deltabox-like frame, IF you'd then have a sportbike with such a low center of gravity, due to the low position of not only the crankcase but the cylinders also, that the sucker would handle like a breeze.
And because the crank wouldn't be longitudinal to the frame, you wouldn't get the rocking motion that you get with bikes like the BMW Boxers, Moto Guzzis, Gold Wings and the Rocket III.
(the Rocket III, BTW, a machine that's reminded me of an Ace or Indian Four, minus one cylinder, since the day I first saw it)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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