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A friend was telling me he heard that using highway pegs in Wyoming is illegal. Supposedly the law states that your feet have to be touching the footboard or peg attached to the controls at all times.
Weird if true. I don't have highway pegs but if this is true then anyone with highway pegs traveling through there should be made aware.
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FJ, I nearly bit and gave my usual reply to gain the desired inflammatory response such as "Ya, and Wyoming was also the first state in the Union to grant Women the right to vote, do you see a trend here?" But I won't stoop to schoolyard banter. A websearch revealed this site by the motorcycle lawyer profiling states laws regarding two wheeled transportation. I don't know how credible this guy is, or how current the information contained is. It doesn't mention any peg laws in the Cowboy State. It is interesting to click on the various states and see the variety of motorcycle legislation across the American landscape. Maybe resident ba.com legal Counsel, Becky can chime in. Becky, are you out there? jh http://www.law4hogs.com/law.html
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Wow is that for real,Whatever next.?
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I attempted serious internet searching a couple of times, trying to get some more info on this topic - to no avail.
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Well having looked at the Wyoming code, nothing says in black and white to not use highway pegs. Quote:
31-5-115. Operation of motorcycles and pedestrian vehicles.
(a) A person operating a motorcycle shall ride only upon the permanent and regular seat attached thereto and shall not carry any other person nor shall any other person ride on a motorcycle unless the motorcycle is designed to carry more than one (1) person, in which event a passenger may ride upon the permanent and regular seat if designed for two (2) persons, or upon another seat firmly attached to the motorcycle at the rear or side of the operator.
(b) A person shall ride upon a motorcycle only while sitting astride the seat, facing forward, with one (1) leg on each side of the motorcycle.
NOTE: One leg on each side of the motorsickle...
(c) No person shall operate a motorcycle while carrying any package, bundle or other article which prevents him from keeping both hands on the handlebars, or obstructs his vision, or interferes with the operation of the motorcycle.
(d) No operator shall carry any person, nor shall any person ride in a position that will interfere with the operation or control of the motorcycle or the view of the operator.
NOTE: This is where an officer may hassle you...
(e) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such a manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. Two (2) motorcycles may be driven abreast in the same lane by consent of both motorcycle drivers.
(f) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass any vehicle in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken, except another motorcycle. The operator of a motorcycle overtaking another motorcycle in the same lane shall first match the speed of the motorcycle being overtaken.
(g) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.
(h) Subsections (f) and (g) of this section do not apply to police officers in the performance of their official duties.
(j) Motorcycles shall not be operated three (3) or more abreast in a single lane.
(k) No person riding upon a motorcycle shall attach himself or the motorcycle to any other moving vehicle on a roadway. This does not prohibit attaching a motorcycle trailer or motorcycle semitrailer to a motorcycle if the trailer or semitrailer was designed for the attachment.
(m) Any motorcycle carrying a passenger, other than in a sidecar or enclosed cab, shall be equipped with footrests for the passenger.
(n) No person shall operate any motorcycle with handlebars so positioned that the hands of the operator, when upon the grips, are above shoulder height when the operator is sitting astride the vehicle seat with the vehicle in an upright position.
(o) No minor shall operate or ride nor shall the operator permit a minor to ride upon a motorcycle unless he is wearing protective headgear securely fastened on his head, and of a type which complies with standards established by the superintendent. This subsection does not apply to persons riding within an enclosed cab nor to persons operating or riding a moped. This subsection only applies to motorcycles used on public highways, streets and thoroughfares.
(p) Any person operating a motorcycle or pedestrian vehicle shall have the headlamps of the motorcycle or pedestrian vehicle activated at all times, including daylight hours.
(q) Operators of motorcycles operating in an officially authorized parade are exempt from subsections (e) through (o) of this section.
(r) The superintendent is authorized to approve or disapprove protective headgear required herein, and to issue and enforce regulations establishing standards and specifications for the approval thereof and to the sale and use of the equipment as provided in W.S. 31-5-932 through 31-5-934 for other vehicle safety equipment. The standard for protective headgear shall meet or exceed the Z90.1-1971 standard of the American National Standards Institute. However, all existing equipment meeting the Z90.1-1966 standard of the American National Standards Institute shall be accepted.
(s) This section applies to motor-driven cycles unless otherwise provided.
The Wyoming Motorcycle Operating Manual does make mention of Quote:
• Feet  Keep your feet firmly on the footpegs to maintain balance. Don’t drag your feet. If your foot catches on something, you can be injured and it could affect your control of the motorcycle. Keep your feet near the controls(Aha! but this is the handbook NOT the code) so you can get to them fast, if needed. Also, don’t let your toes point downward  they may get caught between the road and the footpegs.
I do read some sections where an officer that is having a bad day may interpret the code in a way to say no highway pegs, but I would argue that point before a judge. Remember cops have arrest power. It is the Judge who will decide things...You'll only pi$$ off the cop if ya argue!
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I've e-mailed the Wyoming department of Transportation, asking them about this issue too.
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I've e-mailed the Wyoming department of Transportation, asking them about this issue too.
And this is their response,
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Dear James;
You were in the right area of the law, however, you missed subsection
'm' (see below).
(m) Any motorcycle carrying a passenger, other than in a sidecar or
enclosed cab, shall be equipped with footrests for the passenger.
Sgt. Stephen Townsend
Wyoming Highway Patrol
Cheyenne, WY. 82009-3340
WTF? I asked, "...is the use of motorcycle highway pegs illegal in the State of
Wyoming?" Sounds like he has no idea about motorsickles...
Maybe I'll try again.
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Yes, pegs are legal in Wyoming.
>>>>>> Moe 10/11/2005 3:06:23 PM >>>
Dear Sgt. Townsend,
My question was about the operator using pegs mounted to the roll bars.
These pegs are used to alter the foot position and no way are
accessible by a passenger. Usually these roll bar pegs are used when
rolling on long stretches of highways, thus the term 'Highway pegs'.
I thank you for your reply though.
Regards,
James Dressler Jr.
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(d) No operator shall carry any person, nor shall any person ride in a position that will interfere with the operation or control of the motorcycle or the view of the operator.
NOTE: This is where an officer may hassle you...
That's nuts... next thing they'll be trying to tell us we can't drive cars with our feet up on the dashboard... 
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WTF? I asked, "...is the use of motorcycle highway pegs illegal in the State of Wyoming?" Sounds like he has no idea about motorsickles...
Maybe I'll try again.
Moe,
Next time I get into Wyoming, I'll keep an eye peeled for Officer Townsend. Then again maybe I won't, "they're not highway bars, they're engine guards with alternate foot positioning devices".
John
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They're pegs for passengers who happen to be riding on the handle bars... Suddenly I feel like quoting the bus driver from the Simpsons, "What's yer hassle, pig?" 
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if it is illegal to remove your feet from the controls what happens when you stop
you fall over or get a fine
well the land of freedom ruled by dictators called bush
i would not expect less in such a freeless place like the good ole US OF A
its ok to bear arms but you cannot bear your ****** out on the beach ****** that
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When you stop, it's OK to put your feet down because you aren't riding anymore. Makes me wonder, just where is the transition from stopped to riding? At what point do they consider you still stopped and give you a tickit if you put yout feet up and what is the point where they will ticket you if they're not up yet?
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That's why I only put 1 foot down....
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hey grump is that legal you could get half a fine for one foot on the ground
any other stupid american laws
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Dood, what's with the USA bashing? You wanna tell us who pissed on your parade?
If it was here or there, I'd understand and figure you were related to Dwight, but you are consistently negative here....
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i'm not bashing the people just your government
they keep say the land of the free but you have more stupid laws than the rest of the world
sorry but i don't like bush i prefered clinton
hey phil seen your bike nice one bro is there any other but black nah they're all black to me
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Why would anyone want to bear their *** at the beach? for most of the folks I know that's not a good look...sand + nude = ouch
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you should live in europe real nice women mostly topless on the beach wearing thongs
what we call fat the yanks call anorexic
my missus is well fit i'll post a picture of her on the duke monster
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well this must be a yank website as i had the pic of my missus removed
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put another pic in hopefully they will accept as she is wearing some clothes
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well this must be a yank website as i had the pic of my missus removed
By a Brit ....
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put another pic in hopefully they will accept as she is wearing some clothes
Thanks Melvin
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well i'm a british gibraltarian and we are very liberal down here
the europe biker should pop down to the FARO rally have some fun and loosen up a bit
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loosen up a bit
Not a case of loosening up a bit - you'd find out if you were ever lucky enough to meet me!
More a case of playing by Robert's rules - remember him, the guy who owns this site .... ?
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cannot remember as i do not know who owns the site
who is robert
where is he from
and i suppose he rides a triumph?
very good site i enjoy surfin it
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Yup Robert is the man. He's fairly busy lately so he just lurks and we take care of it for him, but the whole thing was his idea, so we try our best to keep it in his vision, know what I mean? Thanks for playing by the rules. It's nice when everyone respects someone's wishes. If you want to know more, take a look in the lounge and the sticky thread "acceptable use policy" for more info.
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I got pulled by the cops here in oz for having my 3 yr. old son positioned in front of me on my bike,cop said he didn,t know if it was illegal but if he would book me he could, cause it looked dangerous.He was on the radio for over a half hour trying to find out if was illegal,he came back with,he didn,t know about him being in front of me but his feet had to be on footpegs.Fair enough easy to fix i said but i was and still am of the opinion that i could keep a better eye on him in front of me than trust him to concentrate and hold on tight for too long behind me, anyway cop not happy me no care end of story. Also when you stop at a stop sign here your supposed to put both feet on the ground, i,ve had a few mates given tickets for that one,don,t understand that one myself. 
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Yeah, Melvin, things are really bad here in the States. So don't bother to come over.
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never had the want of going
anyway the way bush is invading land we have more chance of you lot coming over here
****** you colonial renegades
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Melvin,
I expect you and everyone on this board to act with decorum.
Your post is out of line.
Consider this a warning.
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That black Triumph in the 360 degree photo you can get to from the main page is his.
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OK YOU LOT ENOUGH LAWS
HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR EVEN YOU PAPADEAN
I'M OF SKING AND THEN I'LL SPEND SOMETIME IN THE STATES MOST PROBABLY ARIZONA LOL
HAVE A GOOD ONE I'M HITTING THE SLOPES
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Hey Melvin, that wonderful country you live in may not have as many laws as the good ole USA, but at least our country still trust us enought to let us own firearms. At least our country still believes in the right of self protection, which is one of the most basic of all human rights . Al
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well we can have firearms if you go by the laws of ownership
the british police are supposed to be the best in the world and at least in gibraltar our last murder was over ten years ago
bet you cannot say that of the good ole USA which has the highest crime rate in the world
anyway i worked for over 20 years for the british ministry of defence and i've been playing with more than guns
i helped our troops go to fight the falklands war and the first gulf war and the second not only the UK troops but the canadians and yanks
one thing i can say the lads who went were decent people who have fought and died so that we can enjoy the freedom to ride our bikes and our way of life
i don't think we need to bear arms if we all respect each other instead of killing our fellow man by that i mean you as a yank should not have to protect yourself against a fellow american alas we in all countries have a.s.s holes who live and enjoy being a criminal thats why we have police
if we respect our fellow citizens we should not need to protect ourselves from them
we do need to protect ourselves from a.s.s wipes called bin laden and for that we have our troops
with that all i can say god save the brothers who are fighting for and us to be free
i never new my ganny cos of tyrants like hitler
she was killed by a german bomb hitting her house in kensington london
i don't want my kids to grow up without the freedom we enjoy so support the forces of both countries and down with terrorists
hope you agree on this brother
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i hope i don't get a warning for my last post
ride free to all the bikers of the free world
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No warnings mate, you've voiced your opinion and that's what freedom is all about!! However, I do need to set the record straight on one of your points with some facts Quote:
you cannot say that of the good ole USA which has the highest crime rate in the world
Completely false. Here's but one article concerning this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht.../01/ixhome.html England has worst crime rate in world
There's hundreds out there supporting this...
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i never use any punctuations only when i write letters not on the PC
on the rose tinted glasses i certainly don't have those on cos i did say that there is a lot of people who live from doing harm to others thus we do have to be alert to these criminals
and maybe you got the wrong end of my whip (i prefer a whip to a stick LOL}
if our grandads had not won against the krauts we most probably not be enjoying our way of life that we do now
and i did work for the MOD gib base for 20 years my point is i have no desire to own a weapon as i played with the military ones myself
i was based at the regiments training camp testing them and using them in the ranges for free
and i must agree that there is a lot of money spent on pen pushers and we did and they still have a lot of free time in that job mainly and luckly cos we are not at war every single day of our lives
saying that life in general is a war as we have to work and fight for what we have as no one out there gives us anything for free
oh and one thing bonnyusa i've seen your bike and its been done very tastefully i like it
you see i'm not anti yanks just anti blair bush as they are out for what they can get we are the poor souls paying for that
like wise i don't like the government in gibraltar
i'm just critical of governments i suppose it's the anarcist in me
and i still think that america has silly laws
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"Krauts" .. "Yanks" .. ? How to win friends and influence people eh? You weren't kidding about the punctuation either 
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