 Important Legislation: Cyclists & Health Insurance
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Reply with quoteQuote If you've got a motorcycle (or snow-mobile, etc) accident injury claim on your medical records, you may very likely find that Health and Hospitalization companies will not cover you in the event of another accident. Oh, they'll happily take your premium, but they will exclude any motorcycle related claim.. There is a Bill working it's way through the US House of Representatives to correct this. The American Motorcycle Association has a "Rapid Response Center" on their Web site. It will only take you a minute or two to let your Congressman (Person?) know that you would like them to support the bill. The link below makes it painless...they have a pre-written message (which you can edit, if you'd like), and a link that automatically e-mails (or sends a traditional letter). If you are unsure of who your representative is, they have that covered as well. You just enter your zip code. http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp
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NO! I will never willingly give government oversight on private health care. EVER!
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NO! I will never willingly give government oversight on private health care. EVER!
That's a shame. I grew up in the Army, best family health care system I've ever experienced and if I'm not mistaken it was government controlled.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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I did it. Almost one sixth of all Americans are uninsured. We don't need more.
Cody
I was born a long ways from where I was supposed to be. - Bob Dylan
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Has anybody read this bill?  Does anybody know what else is attached to it that may double or triple everyones rates? What other activity would it cover? Actually the bill has been proposed in 2005,2006,and I think shelved this year. I don't think there is a bill. I think there are web posts about bills. I would like to see the whole bill, and read the whole bill before I agree with anybody. I can't find the current bill referred to anywhere. I can't find it on the legislative calendars. On one side you guys argue about helmets costing everybody money when an accident happens then you want everybody to pay for your coverage every month if you crash. Which way do you want it? This same legislation will open the door for mandatory acceptance by life carriers for stunt drivers, sky divers, heart attack victims, smokers etc. You need to pass one bill! National Health. Do that and I will drop my $650.00 per month private health. Quote:
That's a shame. I grew up in the Army, best family health care system I've ever experienced and if I'm not mistaken it was government controlled.
This is control of private health carriers and we could talk forever about the quality of care at the VA. Many may not agree with your good grades. (Walter Reed  etc.) 
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This is control of private health carriers and we could talk forever about the quality of care at the VA. Many may not agree with your good grades. (Walter Reed etc.)
If I might make a point, please. Accessible family health care is about preventative maintenance not catastrophic restoration. You'll find the vast majority of preventative maintenance done by the VA, like covering my Vietnam vet dad's heart condition, to be quite adequate. The privatized military health system you now see isn't the system I grew up in...this has been a "market forces" adjustment by well meaning but misguided poltical operatives. My childhood doctors were officers in the Army at base hospitals and despite the reputation, they were quite good.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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You are right about the past and the present misguided operatives that made horrific mistakes.
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The only bad thing about the Army health care system is the increasing privatization of it - ****** Tricare is the worst thing that ever happened to Army medical. A guy that I work with needed surgery for nerve damage in his arm (Iraq wounds), he went to his Primary Care Dr (good old GP), got referred to a neurologist..after about a month, Tricare approved his visit to the neuro, who looked at him about two seconds and referred him to a neuro surgeon...about a month later Tricare approved the referral and sent him back to the same neurologist (NOT surgeon) he'd seen the first time. And what the regular healthcare system needs is the government the ****** out of it (as with most things!), and tort reform. If only one of the presidential candidates was a medical doctor and could understand what needs done...oh wait there IS one! 
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Tricare Prime member here (retired AF). Wife rushed to local non-military hospital twice via ambulance. A one week stay with many differenct doctors one of the trips.
Over $35K in bills. Tricare paid every cent. There wasn't even a co-payment.
No bad experiences here.
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Tom
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And what the regular healthcare system needs is the government the ****** out of it (as with most things!), and tort reform.
And, maybe the health care "industry" would be better served not trying become 20% of the gross domestic product...and focus more upon becoming a service to the American citizen.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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I pushed this off topic, my bad. I want the bill and the loophole. Can not find them can somebody produce a link? Would also like case law from litigation or names of victims damaged by this.
I think what they are saying, and do not consider it a loophole, is they never signed up for an endorsement. If biking isn't covered they said you could pay more to have it covered. Well, if you did not buy the endorsement you are not covered. Pretty simple contract law if you ask me.
I am not saying thats the case at all. Just saying I have not read the loophole or about those that suffered for it. I think AMA wants biking covered without additional premiums paid for it.
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NO! I will never willingly give government oversight on private health care. EVER!
That's a shame. I grew up in the Army, best family health care system I've ever experienced and if I'm not mistaken it was government controlled.
I spent 23 years as a Naval Flight Officer. As an aviator I was fairly high up on the priority list. Most of my doctors were first rate and the corpsmen knew their stuff, but between the silly regulations and the bureaucracy I wouldn't want it again. The junior enlisted and their families weren't treated nearly as well as me and I think the system sucked. It's fine for combat wounds and curing the the clap but beyond that I'd rather be out among the civilians.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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 Ah, Navy, the oldest service and most maligned and mistreated. I can only speak to the Army's side of the equation from the time my dad was junior officer until he retired as battalion commander the medical corps was superior. Far superior to the private trade in rural America these days.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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You need to pass one bill! National Health. Do that and I will drop my $650.00 per month private health.
The Canadians have the US to go to when the wait is so long they'd die before they're treated. The Brits have a private system for when the bureaucrats will let them die before they get care. Where will Americans go when the government health bureaucracy decides it's just not cost effective to keep them around? Every health care system rations health care. We do it by price, the nationalized systems do it by availability. High ranking politicians and bureaucrats always get special treatment not available to the common peon of course.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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You are absolutely right Larry. I pay $8,000.00 per year for my family plan. I will eliminate that to pay the tax increase for the trillion buck plan.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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I pay $8,000.00 per year for my family plan.
That seems a pretty good deal,I pay $5000 yearly just to cover my wife on the company BCBS plan. I'm very lucky, my company covers me but that won't last forever as the premiums keep skyrocketing.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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This conversation is nice and all, but yeah let's try to keep it on track 
Benny
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The Canadians have the US to go to when the wait is so long they'd die before they're treated. The Brits have a private system for when the bureaucrats will let them die before they get care. Where will Americans go when the government health bureaucracy decides it's just not cost effective to keep them around?
Last time I visited the emergency room (in America,) there was a very, very long wait.
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if the politicians were forced to live with the same health care plans as the citizens, i am sure things would be a lot different.
ENJOY!!!!! NEWT!!!!!
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