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#167096 05/31/2007 7:44 AM
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Ok all you in the good ol USA please help me . I have just purchased some accessory indicators (turn signals) (hate those std triumph ones) that seem to of originated from your neck of the woods because they are duel filament globes. Now over here in aussie land our indicators are single filament and earth, or ground, is always green. These suckers have no green wires just black, black/white, and red. Now I assume I can just use one side of the globe but I am not sure which wires i should use. I can no doubt do this by trial and error but i am sure someone out there can help me get it right straight up and while your there tell me why you have duel filament indicators, is it for hazard lights?


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sm2003 #167097 05/31/2007 7:48 AM
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One filament (the smaller) is for a running light, (as in tail light type circuit) the other larger filament is for the signal light.

Short of a volt ohm meter, hold the black wire to the - battery terminal, then the others wires one by one to the + battery terminal.

A 9 volt battery may work too.

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Bucky #167098 05/31/2007 7:53 AM
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By running do you mean this light is on all the time? Assuming this is amber that is weird man?


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sm2003 #167099 05/31/2007 11:09 AM
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Running lights are on all the time - like a volvo. They're illegal in Aust on bikes, but Yank bikes use the indicator lights with the dimmer filament. The fronts are amber and I believe the rears have to be red. (Yes that means rear indicators there can be red. Weird eh?)

Easiest way to figure your lights out is to connect the wires straight up to a battery (a convenient car battery'll do). I'd guess the black to be earth but if you have a meter to check it, do so. Then try first one wire then the other to find the brightest filament and hook them up to your standard indicator wires. You can just ignore the other wire. Alternatively you could hook up BOTH filaments and have really bright indicators.

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Sandmann #167100 05/31/2007 1:41 PM
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Black should be the ground wire. Thats pretty much standard here in the US. The brighter filament is the indicator. I would test them first to be sure they work with your flasher. If not then you either need different bulbs to make the flasher work properly or a different flasher that works with the resistance of those bulbs.


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sandmann is your expert, whatever he doesn't know about our electical systems doesn't need known!


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ladisney #167102 05/31/2007 3:32 PM
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Thanks fellas once again your expert advise has helped me out.


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sm2003 #167103 05/31/2007 3:44 PM
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If you opt for the trial-and-error method, use a separate battery or you may be blowing fuses.

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sm2003 #167104 06/01/2007 11:56 AM
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Black = earth.
Red = bright filament = signal.
Black/white = dim filament = running light, connect to tail light circuit.

This could be wrong, but the chances that it is correct are very high.


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Greybeard #167105 06/02/2007 5:14 AM
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I have just hooked the indicators up and have ended up with the blk/white wire connected to the black wire on the bike and the red wire connected to the other one which i think from memory was green. This seemed to be the only combination that would flash at around the right timing. Hooking the blk wire to blk on the bike made for very fast dim flashing. As you have no doubt already gathered i dont really know what i am doing. My only concern is that I will damage the bikes wiring. So now I have the blk wires not connected at all. Incidentally I should mention that i am at this stage still running std front indicators till i make some brackets for the new ones. Put my mind at rest experts.


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Are your new lights LED'S or standard bulbs?


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popcorn #167107 06/02/2007 6:17 AM
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They are standard bulbs. The indicators themselves are very close in shape to the current harley indicator but with a grooved effect, far nicer than the awful triumph originals. I just couldnt stand looking at them any longer and I hate where they mount the front ones.


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Quote:

My only concern is that I will damage the bikes wiring


You won't hurt the bike that way. If you leave the earth wire floating and use the two light wires it can run both sides of the globe. Have a look at the globes while they're flashing and see if you can tell if one or both filaments are lighting up. I'd be very surprised if Greybeard's colour codes weren't the right ones, but if not, whatever works. Even if you ARE running both filaments it won't bother anything, since the flasher's capable of running trailer lights as well as the bike's.

Just had a think about it - you SHOULD be able to tell from a close look at the socket which wire goes where. Two of them will go to the two spring-loaded contacts in the base of the socket, and one (the earth wire) will go to the body of the socket.

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Sandmann #167109 06/02/2007 3:35 PM
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Thanks Sandman the smaller filament is the one lighting up which was also the case when I had the black wire hooked to black on the bike. The only difference being the light was very dim and flashing very fast. I havnt pulled the guts out of one of the indicators, my first aim to determine what was what, but it didn't come apart easily so i didnt want to force it. It sounds as though it will be ok as it is.


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