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Finally.....I can put my "Fishtails" on!...
#161186 05/14/2007 3:39 PM
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Ok.........so I am just over the 500 miles break in on my '06 America (just bought it in Jan. '07) We got these killer straight fishtail pipes when we bought my bike. Any advice on what to do next? There is no back pressure......... some have suggested "torque cones........others have said weld in a washer" what do you think? Thanks.......... ~*~ Painted Lady

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Here are some baffles.
http://www.jpcycles.com/search.aspx?search=baffles&store=All
I have used 4" mini ones many times no muffleing effect but done give some back pressure.

With fishtails you may not need any unless you want quieter since the fishtail acts like a baffle already.

Be sure to rejet.


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The_Dog33 #161188 05/14/2007 3:50 PM
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Thanks..........yeah they do need something. We tried them out a few weeks back and the bike is LOUD..........but it goes..... BBBBbbbblllllllllleeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh....... NO Back pressure/power whatsoever. Bummer. Great sound though. *S* I just want it to move now. ~*~ Painted Lady


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PaintedLady #161189 05/14/2007 4:21 PM
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If you like the sound might try the 4" one I like. They will act like the reducer cone I leave in the stock pipes when I gut them. Will have to make sur of the diameter you want and drill 1 small hole for the bolt to secure them.


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The_Dog33 #161190 05/14/2007 9:02 PM
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I just got my 20" extensions and ordered some sansom baffles . the extensions should be back from the chrome shop about the time the baffles arrive. I'll let you know how it works out. mine are just like yours- 36"-loud!- and no low end.


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NO Back pressure/power whatsoever. Bummer. Great sound though.




Have you done a rejet? If you like the sound as is, leave the fishtails as they are. Even if you do add a baffle, you'll still need a rejet.

Of course, I have 16" open mufflers, so loud doesn't bother me.


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BrianT #161192 05/14/2007 10:35 PM
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NO Back pressure/power whatsoever. Bummer. Great sound though.




Have you done a rejet? If you like the sound as is, leave the fishtails as they are. Even if you do add a baffle, you'll still need a rejet.

Of course, I have 16" open mufflers, so loud doesn't bother me.


The rejet ain't it. Mine is jetted correctly for aftermarket pipes- I've had 4 sets on it now- D&D, gutted America, KhromeWerks turn outs, and now these. Those 16" "mufflers" of yours do have some db's, but are nothin like these dragpipe fishtales. I ran it with open headers, just for kicks, and these are somehow- (it's beyond me)- louder than open headers. Paintedlady will need to rejet, but there still will be no bottom end tourque unitl there is some backpressure.


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straight through fishtails are always LOUD I don't know the mechanics of it they just are.Like guitarted ted said louder than open headers. I love them. I like loud..louder the better, so loud it hurts ya.


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Cowtipper #161194 05/15/2007 8:28 AM
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I'll let you know how it works out. mine are just like yours- 36"-loud!- and no low end.



Great! I look forward to seeing how yours works out. ~*~ Painted Lady


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Cowtipper #161195 05/15/2007 8:39 AM
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NO Back pressure/power whatsoever. Bummer. Great sound though.




Have you done a rejet? If you like the sound as is, leave the fishtails as they are. Even if you do add a baffle, you'll still need a rejet.

Of course, I have 16" open mufflers, so loud doesn't bother me.


The rejet ain't it. Mine is jetted correctly for aftermarket pipes- I've had 4 sets on it now- D&D, gutted America, KhromeWerks turn outs, and now these. Those 16" "mufflers" of yours do have some db's, but are nothin like these dragpipe fishtales. I ran it with open headers, just for kicks, and these are somehow- (it's beyond me)- louder than open headers. Paintedlady will need to rejet, but there still will be no bottom end tourque unitl there is some backpressure.




some are saying re-jet.........don't need backpressure........you do need backpressure. I am starting to get a little confused. If we take it to the Triumph dealer I wonder if they could help. Or a local bike shop. I just don't want to screw my bike up and have a great result with the pipes. ~*~ Painted Lady


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The_Dog33 #161196 05/15/2007 8:41 AM
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straight through fishtails are always LOUD I don't know the mechanics of it they just are.Like guitarted ted said louder than open headers. I love them. I like loud..louder the better, so loud it hurts ya.




Yeah! LOUD!! I want them to hear me coming.......... Anything helps in a world that doesn't see bikes........at least they will hopefully hear. *S* ~*~ Painted Lady


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You do need back pressure for sure without it you won't get good performance. The rejet is much more important as far as not hurting the engine. All you need is somethimg like the 4" baffles I posted. But it's your call as far as where you get them , how much you pay etc... Those are common and available from many different suppliers. They won't effect sound but will give back pressure.


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You do need back pressure for sure without it you won't get good performance. The rejet is much more important as far as not hurting the engine. All you need is somethimg like the 4" baffles I posted. But it's your call as far as where you get them , how much you pay etc... Those are common and available from many different suppliers. They won't effect sound but will give back pressure.




Thank you..........that does sound like a good plan. ~*~ Painted Lady


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Hi Donna,
Get in touch with Phil in Ft Lauderdale or another South Florida member. We are able to give hands on help. Your bike will scream when bonnyusa get through with it.


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