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Semms like there are a number of alternatives for center stands for the carb version America. Anyone use the stand from TEC BIKE PARTS USA? http://www.tecbikepartsusa.com/Triumph_Center_Stand_Kits_s/1817.htmIf you use one of these, is the bike hard to lift using the optional lift handle? Does the stand contact anyting or is there interference? How does the stand fit?
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Semms like there are a number of alternatives for center stands for the carb version America. Anyone use the stand from TEC BIKE PARTS USA?
http://www.tecbikepartsusa.com/Triumph_Center_Stand_Kits_s/1817.htm
If you use one of these, is the bike hard to lift using the optional lift handle? Does the stand contact anyting or is there interference? How does the stand fit?
I bought the techbikeparts center stand for my 04 and needed to grind the pins that provide the stop against the bottom of the frame in order to clear the aft end of the frame members and to allow more forward angle when the stand is down; as received it did not clear the frame ends and was essentially vertical when it stopped against the frame. I reported on this awhile back and posted photos on photobucket of before and after the pin mods. (I'll try to put the photobucket link at the bottom of this post)
I also bought the lifting handle (which fit just fine) and it would be hard to lift the bike without it; It is still pretty heavy for this 5'6" 160 lb old guy to get the bike on the stand and it would be easier if the foot lever had a backward extension like the center stand on my 77 Yamaha 305 that you can push down with your foot while lifting the bike up to help lever it up and back.
I ground the stop pins about 0.100" to get a 15 degree forward angle of the deployed stand, and if I was to do it again I'd opt for a bit less; 15 degrees makes the rear tire just clear the ground on a cement surface, but it might not clear if the stand were used on gravel or a blacktop surface that it could sink into, and it takes a pretty good force to push it forward off the stand. 10 degrees might be easier to handle and still be enough to prevent the bike from coming off the stand if bumped. Also even though the gussets reinforcing the stop pins look like 15 degrees was the intended angle, at this angle the foot lever end rests on the ground and tilts the bike slightly to the right.
Here's the photobucket link Techbikeparts center stand photos
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I concur with everything Phil just said here, George. I also had to do that same slight modification to the stand in order to make it work perfectly.
Now, I ride pretty "spiritedly" in the twisties, and I have scraped the stand's flat-sided deployment arm a few times while going around lefthand tight turns at speed, however from what I've heard from those who have the Rivco center stands, the rounded deployment arm on those scrape much earlier in those lefthander turns than do these made by TEC Bike.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the unit, and considering the low low price of it, would recommend it.
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I concur with everything Phil just said here, George. I also had to do that same slight modification to the stand in order to make it work perfectly.
Now, I ride pretty "spiritedly" in the twisties, and I have scraped the stand's flat-sided deployment arm a few times while going around lefthand tight turns at speed, however from what I've heard from those who have the Rivco center stands, the rounded deployment arm on those scrape much earlier in those lefthander turns than do these made by TEC Bike.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the unit, and considering the low low price of it, would recommend it.
I agree on the good price, Dwight, and I even received a partial refund from Dave for my trouble.
I am thinking of adding hose clamps around the bottom frame members where the pins hit to slightly reduce stand's angle and make it easier to push off. One other thing I remembered was that the instructions seemed backwards on how the "top hat" bushings are installed "with the rim of the bushes to the inside." I found they fit on the outside of the stand between the stand and the frame to limit any sideways movement; maybe it was just my misunderstanding of the instructions wording.
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I asked these folks if this issued has been resolved. This is the response. Hope Dave doesn't mind me quoting him: Yes, These stands are now supplied with their pins appropriately modified. Regards, Dave TEC Bike Parts USA www.TECbikepartsUSA.com
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I believe Tec B. Prts. offered a discount to BA.Com members awhile back on these stands 
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I believe Tec B. Prts. offered a discount to BA.Com members awhile back on these stands
Yes they did, 10% in the vendors section. It is still there. just mention it to Dave.
http://www.bonnevilleamerica.com/forums/...ge=0#Post548773
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Just ordered a centerstand from Tec Bike Parts and they are still honoring our 10 percent discount. Seem like good folks and price is definitely good.
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Just ordered a centerstand from Tec Bike Parts and they are still honoring our 10 percent discount. Seem like good folks and price is definitely good.
Let us know how the installation goes and if they moved the stop pins or if they grind a flat on them like Dwight and I did. Remember that the flanged bushings go into the stand from the outside so the heads fit between the frame members, the lower frame rail socket head screws are 8mm and not 10mm as my instructions said, and the long socket head screw in the kit is needed for the bumper stop because the hex head bolt shown in that position in their photos is too short to stop the stand before it hits the exhaust (at least it was on mine with TORs).
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Will do. My new stand has been shipped (Friday) so it may get here by next week's end hopefully (shipped Parcel Post). I am not sure how folks can stand to do maintenance without a centerstand... oil changes, chain adjustments, etc.
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I don't know how y'all get the bike on the centerstand (if you're a yute I do). Here's my solution: 2x4 block  Roll it on  Kick it down  Stow the block of wood. 
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Gee, Thanks a lot Moe. Now I have to add that to my list of stuff I just gotta have. LOL. No kidding I really want one now. And BTW those pix look great!
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Cool idea Moe !
I agree, good idea, Moe; not too big a block to carry, and you could use it to chock the front tire as well.
Did you have to grind the stop pins on your stand too? What angle did it end up?
Looks like your tire clears a bit more than mine and the side arm is off the ground too; it is probably easier to push off the stand than my 04.
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I don't know how y'all get the bike on the centerstand (if you're a yute I do). Here's my solution:
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I agree, good idea, Moe; not too big a block to carry, and you could use it to chock the front tire as well.
Did you have to grind the stop pins on your stand too? What angle did it end up?
Looks like your tire clears a bit more than mine and the side arm is off the ground too; it is probably easier to push off the stand than my 04.
Yes I had to grind the stops. What angle did I end up? One that works! I didn't measure it but you can see from the photos the angle is sufficient. It is easy to push off the center stand.
Oh and the photos were taken at random? That is, I stopped at overlooks and if things looked good, I took pictures! btw it was a spectacular day on the BRP and Skyline Drive. The best the weather has ever been on those roads for me. Ever.
Click on the picture below for a full size image.
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Just to follow up, the center stand and grab rail arrived yesterday. Quality is top notch. The fitment is very easy except the directions are a bit vague on where to mount various screws and you have to just figure it out. A couple pics with details on the hardware would have been nice. The stand is easy to use and the bike can be pulled up easily; perhaps more easily than any other stand I have used (dozens). Combine quality with a great price and you have a great deal! The pins have been ground to the correct angle and the bike sits securely on the stand. wg
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How long did it take to install? How much hassle?
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Essentially, the stand has two major parts. The first is the bracket where one end of the return spring attaches. You remove two socket head bolts on the frame and install this piece. The second part is the stand itself. It is retained by two bolts and pivots and the spring needs to be attached to it. If the directions had been better, perhaps 1/2 hour? Instead, you are left trying to figure out where and in what order the hardware is attached. There is an 8mm bolt that goes through the stand that provides a stop so that the stand doesn't hit the muffler. Someone was good enough to point out that this bit was used in this manner. There is another hole in the stand for yet another bolt with locknut and I can't see any reason for it. Make sure you get the lift handle.
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So, I received my Techbike parts center stand last week and installed it today. The pins still do not clear the rear frame member of a 04 America. Off the bike and 5m with the Dremel, and... I did not take enough off, so off again and some file work to the rear of each pin. The pins did have a flat on them where they were machined, so I figured we were good to go now that it would swing down to the ground. Nope... the stand was a perfect 90 degrees when deployed. The bike popped off the stand while I was fitting the muffler back on. Twice more with grinding and fitting and now the angle is enough that you would have to bump the bike to roll it off. It will have to come off for more pin shaping before I could use it in a public place.
The moral of the story is... the one I received on the 18th still required some smithing then paint touch up.
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I recently contacted Techbike and referred to this post asking if they had corrected the issues with the stand so that no modification was needed. They assured me they had. I ordered the stand for my 08 America and it went on with no issues, furthermore, the stop pins cleared the frame and the stand when up is at an appropriate angle to secure the bike. I was able to scrub down the whitewalls and clean/lube the chain with ease! So, at least in my case, seems like they have resolved the previous issues with the stop pins. Further, they provided the 10% discount as well. I am happy!   
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How do you get your bike up on the stand?
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Place one foot on the stand extension to secure it, grab under the rear fender and rock it back. It takes me a couple attempts. I may end up buying the handle that Techbike sells ($15), it offers a better point to grab and pull.
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Hum, you must be one of those young bloods that Uncle Drew was taking to! I'll try your method though. Thanks!
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Cool, glad they got it sorted. Can you get a couple pics of your bike when the stand is up?
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Here you go...  
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Hides away nicer then the Rivco on my bike and yes I do keep a block to help get it up there. The strap is ok for lifting albeit a little rink-e-dink so I may pick up one of the rails from Biketech.
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So, I received my Techbike parts center stand last week and installed it today. The pins still do not clear the rear frame member of a 04 America.
The moral of the story is... the one I received on the 18th still required some smithing then paint touch up.
There must be some differences between the 04 frame and the 08 since Gooberkat had no issues on his 08. His photo of the pins looks pretty much like the flat I had to put on mine for my 04. Just curious, Gooberkat, how much clearance do you have under the rear tire on the stand?
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I am not quite sure where you were speaking of. From the center of the stand (when up) to the back tire is approx. 5 3/4 inches.
The stop pins do rub a bit on the frame as the stand moves down, but they do not prevent it from travelling into position. Perhaps there is a difference in the frame among the various years.
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Perhaps their NOT a "hot seller", and they still have the older, unadjusted ones in stock, along with the newer, revised item?
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I am not quite sure where you were speaking of. From the center of the stand (when up) to the back tire is approx. 5 3/4 inches. The stop pins do rub a bit on the frame as the stand moves down, but they do not prevent it from traveling into position. Perhaps there is a difference in the frame among the various years.
I meant between the rear tire and the ground with your bike on the center stand.
Mine just clears on level cement and might not clear on gravel but I haven't tried that yet since none of my gravel is level. I did add some hose clamps around the frame where the pins rest with the stand down, but it didn't increase the tire clearance much.
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Perhaps their NOT a "hot seller", and they still have the older, unadjusted ones in stock, along with the newer, revised item?
The stop pins were round on the one I received, so if the pins have a flat they have been revised. I presume that was the factory fix as well as the fix several of us have made.
I also suspect there are slight differences in the ends of the bike frames either by year or just by tolerance in the Mfg process since these would not be critical dimensions except for the swing of the center stand.
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I am not quite sure where you were speaking of. From the center of the stand (when up) to the back tire is approx. 5 3/4 inches. The stop pins do rub a bit on the frame as the stand moves down, but they do not prevent it from traveling into position. Perhaps there is a difference in the frame among the various years.
I meant between the rear tire and the ground with your bike on the center stand.
Mine just clears on level cement and might not clear on gravel but I haven't tried that yet since none of my gravel is level. I did add some hose clamps around the frame where the pins rest with the stand down, but it didn't increase the tire clearance much.
Had it up on the center stand today. Not much clearance, just under a 1/4 inch. But enough to turn the tire without touching.
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