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Looks as though there is a new Norton out there. I hadn't seen that before and it has fins!
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 Norton is running this Bad Boy at The Isle of Mann this summer. Sick Slick machine. I totally dig it.
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I have seen them what I meant is I didn't think they were going into production for the 09 model year. I thought 2010 was when they were supposed to hit the market.
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 I think the fist pic was supposed to be this. A sport bike with a different engine. Yawn  They all look alike to me.
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I agree but that timing cover is unmistakable.I would like to see a more classic styled bike with that engine.
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I think the fist pic was supposed to be this. A sport bike with a different engine. Yawn They all look alike to me.
Cool, looks like a Thruxton on steroids.
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I agree but that timing cover is unmistakable.I would like to see a more classic styled bike with that engine.
Now WHAT the h*ll are you two talkin' about here, HUH??? That Kenny Dreer designed new Norton IS "classic styled", Ian!!! Haven't you two ever seen a 1969 Norton FASTBACK????
Yep, that's RIGHT!!! That updated Norton has MORE than just a passing resemblance to that older machine, ya know! And just because BOTH of 'em don't have the standard issue seat/rear fender Norton Roadster parts on it, certainly doesn't make it any less "classic styled" there, Ian!!!
Yep! I think you two boys are confusing the term "cruiser look" as bein' the only kind'a "classic look" on these here motorsickles, if'n ya ask ME!
(and Ron..."Yawn"???!!!...my gawd, that new Norton is friggin' GORGEOUS, and is probably one of the few motorcycles I've seen in that last 10 years that I'd give my "left one" for to have sittin' in my garage!!!..."not classic styled", Ian says....GEEEEZ!!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Youse east coast guys, The Gathering of the Nortons will be April 19 at Washington Crossing Park on the PA side.
The British & European classic MC day will be May 17 at Germantown, MD.
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Dwight the one you pictured is much closer to a classic Norton than that rice looking thing new for 09. I would never confuse classic vs cruiser and actually kind of resent that implication. The seat line and tank shape certainly do make a difference or did you get the cruiser look vs classic look confused? The bike you pictured would look better to me with the chrome fender that follows the tire too in my opinion. The new Norton looks like any other crotch rocket out of Japan NOT a classic Norton, even the one you pictured.
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That's so odd..I was actually thinking it looked quite a bit like this and not like a Japanese bike at all: 
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I agree but that timing cover is unmistakable.I would like to see a more classic styled bike with that engine.
Now WHAT the h*ll are you two talkin' about here, HUH??? That Kenny Dreer designed new Norton IS "classic styled", Ian!!! Haven't you two ever seen a 1969 Norton FASTBACK????
Yep, that's RIGHT!!! That updated Norton has MORE than just a passing resemblance to that older machine, ya know! And just because BOTH of 'em don't have the standard issue seat/rear fender Norton Roadster parts on it, certainly doesn't make it any less "classic styled" there, Ian!!!
Yep! I think you two boys are confusing the term "cruiser look" as bein' the only kind'a "classic look" on these here motorsickles, if'n ya ask ME!
(and Ron..."Yawn"???!!!...my gawd, that new Norton is friggin' GORGEOUS, and is probably one of the few motorcycles I've seen in that last 10 years that I'd give my "left one" for to have sittin' in my garage!!!..."not classic styled", Ian says....GEEEEZ!!!!)
+1 And it has push rods and hydraulic lifters.
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 I think the Thruxton is a better retro cafe racer but Norton was trying something different. Still, the influence is obvious.
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In defense of everybody else loving them. I yawned at them in the 70s too. I like cruisers. If you have to ride laying on your tank with your elbows in the air at least buy some HP for 1/2 the price. I figure that is gonna be a $10,000 bike with a $8,000 Norton badge.
But, I guess it was disrespectful to those who like the cafe look.
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Mmmm... Norton.
Chunk that engine into a custom cruiser frame...
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Dwight the one you pictured is much closer to a classic Norton than that rice looking thing new for 09. I would never confuse classic vs cruiser and actually kind of resent that implication. The seat line and tank shape certainly do make a difference or did you get the cruiser look vs classic look confused? The bike you pictured would look better to me with the chrome fender that follows the tire too in my opinion. The new Norton looks like any other crotch rocket out of Japan NOT a classic Norton, even the one you pictured.
Ian, you're soooooooo wrong here, I don't know where to begin tellin' ya where exactly you ARE wrong!
So it's (ahem) "japanese lookin'", huh?! Not that there's anything wrong with that BTW, seeing as how you could give me a nice STOCK early Honda CB750 or an early Kawasaki Z1, and I'd GLADLY take it!, however, Ron has it right here...the new Norton has a Cafe Racer look, and I guess I have to remind you Ian that the "Cafe Racer look" was started in Blighty, NOT Japan.
AND, that new Norton motor looks SO MUCH like an old Commando's motor(except that it's cases are horizontally-split, and thus would tend to hold the oil inside it, unlike all old brit iron) that it literally SCREAMS "NORTON"!!!
AND, well...I haven't got all day to tell ya how wrong you are here, so I'll just say once again...THAT FRIGGIN' BIKE IS GORGEOUS!!!!  
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I have to disagree, it looks more like a Ninja or crotch rocket along those lines to me than any kind of classic cafe' racer. They all share some but to me looks way more Jap than anything else. I don't like it and I don't have to!
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Yep, that's RIGHT! You DON'T "have to" like it, Ian! (and so I'll justs chalk that all up to your obvious inability to recognize BEAUTY and HERITAGE when it smacks ya right upside that hard noggin o' yours, dude!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Well, that's your loss Ian but I do understand the narrow xenophobia. And, Ron, it's hard to believe this would make you yawn...but, that would be your loss, too. 
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The bike in that ad is more like I would have liked to see it resemble.
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Well then, all ya'd have to do to make it look like that is to put a couple o' chrome friggin' fenders on it and it WOULD look like that, Ian!!! Okay, and maybe add that flat side cover on it too. BUT, DUDE...can you NOT SEE how much the new Norton looks like that early '70s motorcycle there which that Norton Girl is layin' next to??? GEEEZ man!!! Don't let that tailpiece ALONE throw ya here, dude!!! (I'm talkin' 'bout the one on that new Norton here, NOT the one on the Norton Girl, BTW) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Nope, back end sits too high too and the tank shape and the front fender. I don't like it.
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I dunno, cafe racers are not a class of bike. They really don't exist anymore other than knockoffs of yesteryear. They were the beginning of the sport bikes. On the tank, under the wind, rear set controls, fast cranking and easy to lean into curves. Cafe racers were before sport bikes, not an alternative to them. They were the sport bikes. They were the inspiration that was developed over the years into the current sport bikes. Fast forward 40 years. Why would you have a 85HP almost sport bike that looks like a sport bike. It surely can't compete with a CBR, GSXR, Daytona or the like. If I have to be uncomfortable riding it, it should at least turn the 1/4 under 11sec. Other than that its form over function. Now, if you are liking it as a geezer magnet, that is cool. I guess, as ugly bikes go
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I that case Ron, I can only assume that you don't care much for the Thruxton either then, right?! It doesn't produce much HP either, and of course it also echos the "cafe racers of yore".
However, here's the deal on bikes such as this, at least in my mind anyway. CBRs, GSXRs, and Daytona and the like are great on the racetrack. They produce all the BHP any decent rider would want or need in that environment. However, I'm of the mind that, first, most riders don't go to track days, and thus any motorcycle over, say, 90 or 100HP and ridden on the streets is a superfluous entity. Torque "is where it's at" for the vast numbers of street rider and how they use there bike. And, Twins usually have that in much higher quantities than do Multis, especially near the bottom of the rev range.
And I'm also of the mind that most riders really can't ride well enough to ulitize high HP machines NO MATTER where they're riding those machines.
And so, the way I figure it, most riders can have much more fun riding the twisties on a say a souped up 75HP Thruxton or this new 85HP Norton, and ulitizing 85 to 95% of its capabilities, than they can on a GSXR litrebike using only maybe 65 to 75% of its potential.
(in other words, as the old saying goes..."It's more fun to go faster on a 'slower' bike, than it is going slower on a 'faster' bike.")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Of the current Triumphs, (I mean bikes sharing the 790/865 engine, the only ones I like), the Thrux ranks dead last. Still I'd take it over a poke in the eye with a sharp stick 
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Nope, back end sits too high too and the tank shape and the front fender. I don't like it.
Sure would like to see the norton girls rear end sitting a little higher! No one would b1tch about that!
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What strikes me as odd, is the WIDE, WIDE space between the rear shocks.  Must be an allusion?  And seems like a lot of air between the top of the rear tire and the bottom of the tail. But I'd sure love to have one. After all, IT'S A NORTON! 
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However, here's the deal on bikes such as this, at least in my mind anyway. CBRs, GSXRs, and Daytona and the like are great on the racetrack. They produce all the BHP any decent rider would want or need in that environment. However, I'm of the mind that, first, most riders don't go to track days, and thus any motorcycle over, say, 90 or 100HP and ridden on the streets is a superfluous entity. Torque "is where it's at" for the vast numbers of street rider and how they use there bike. And, Twins usually have that in much higher quantities than do Multis, especially near the bottom of the rev range.
I agree. My Aprilia Mille is pretty much useless unless on a track or when I take it out on some of the twisty Greek highways at dawn when there isn't much traffic around.
Only then can i give it a proper "thrashing" (for medicinal purposes only, of course )
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And so, the way I figure it, most riders can have much more fun riding the twisties on a say a souped up 75HP Thruxton or this new 85HP Norton, and ulitizing 85 to 95% of its capabilities, than they can on a GSXR litrebike using only maybe 65 to 75% of its potential.
(in other words, as the old saying goes..."It's more fun to go faster on a 'slower' bike, than it is going slower on a 'faster' bike.")
Again I agree, it's much more fun to squeeze the heck out of a bike with say 80-100 bhp than to keep having to hold off on a 130+ bhp bike.
The example that comes to mind was in the late 90's I rode a Laverda 750 Formula (I think it put out 83 horses) on a few occasions (superb handling in the twisties) and it was much more fun than my (at the time) much more powerful Ducati 998.
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It bloody friggin beautiful! Nice lines, nice job on the case, looks unique! Alright you tight wads, spend some of that stimulus money and someone buy this for me, I'll ride it!  
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i personally think its awesome.....I would change the pipes and go to a twin "Monster" head light...
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As an owner of both a Thruxton and an America, I can say the Thruxton will run circles around my America. It's a hoot and you are right I would rather ride a "slow" bike well than a fast bike slow.
On the other hand if I'm going farther than 150 miles I take the America. Love them both.
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That thing is gorgeous, especially the John Player colors. I'd find a parking space next to my speedmaster anytime....wouldn't replace the speedie with it though.
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Adding a new Norton to the powerball list...
(wonder if they'd make a fat guy indented tank for me?)
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That red one has to be just about the most drop dead gorgeous bike I've seen in a long time.
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